Well, I have tried the bath thing. I tool three long baths today and WOW........I actually felt good while I was in there except being exceptionally hot and sweaty, which is why I don't really like baths in the first place. I prefer showers, but not right now. It hurts! Actually, between the Clonidine and the Ativan I seem to be doing pretty well. I'm also taking Immodium, Temazepam for sleep ( it works fairly well ), Pepto Bismol to calm the stomach, Motrin or Naproxen for pain, and Dramamine for nausea. Damn, thats the whole medicine cabinet. There are two major obstacles for me right now, however. I have a bad back and the pain radiates into my legs, so the pain down my legs is horrible. The bath helps temporarily, and so did IcyHot for about 45 min, but I wish there were a longer lasting relief. Anyhow, I really don't feel BAD, just icky. No vomiting, just a little runs and very tired and lethargic ( both from w/d and medicine ) Thats a big problem for me. I have so much to do in the next few days and yet I feel like I can't even bother to walk from one room to the other unless its for a VERY meaningful purpose. Anyone got ideas to help with the blahs associated with W/D's. Someone said their doc put them on a stimulant to help get them going. I wonder if some caffeine would be bad. It might get me moving, but I don't need my stomach messed up any more. Anyhow,thanks for all the great posts. I believe in all of you and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for believing in me. Love to all of you.

Jester

PS--back to this quinine water question.....no one has answered it, What is it? How does it help leg pain or any pain for that matter?