im a 47 year old divorced cause of drugs male...back in 1984 i snorted heroin for a year/half,wanted out of the projects of detroit so i went on methadone...stabilized at 35mg a day and after a year wanted off completely so i detoxed two mg a day...the first 11 days were unbearable..didnt sleep for 12 days straight and then i caught 10 min here and there...felt like complete crap/zero drugs in system,relapsed...swore id never do methadone again...never did heroin again...1990 got into a accident that hurt my l5disc...started poppin pills and over the years up to 1998 was takin 50 lortabs a day just to be strait...wiped out my marriage and my kids,became homeless...lets forget that stuff for now...in 1998 they came out with a injectable form of bupenorphine that i could get from a pain clinic in fla...they would fed ex a months supply so i wouldnt have to drive down from daytona...they also gave me serax and restoril...every once in awhile i would use the h since i knew i had my bupe coming in the mail...bad news...denial being an addict...fda came up with bupenorphine in a pill and i stated taking subutex back in 2001...i basically take it for pain and w/d prevention...doc jumped me back on methadone for two years but dose crept up to 120mg...addict thinking..10 or 20 would have staqved off pain...jumped back to subutex two/half years ago..transgration was fine...you need to get down below 20mg and even then a day or two off the meth so the bupenorpjhine will hop on your opiate receptors and bind quick...subutex is alot different than meth..it is an ant-agonist opiate...really cant od but you can function just fine...it gives you more energy than the methadone,sex is heaven..acts like viagra for me and no w/d's show....tad bit of constipation....i just got out of hospital and i need surgery very quick for stalactites(big spurs) on my neck discs..tomoroow doc will pull me off subutex and back on methadone...they are both long actinmg opiates...meth=72 hrs...bupe=24 hrs..aftyer surgery will jump back off meth and go back on subutex...if i had time i can fill you in more...twice in the past when i diddnt have my bupe and couldnt get h,i took my serax and restoril in a little higher dose and went into alice and wonderland...its a drug physcosis...thought might be to forget the bupe and if yopu want out of your addiction wean all the way down on the methadone and take a month off life and by the time its a montha nd a day,youll be feeling like a human being...no one wants to deal with w/d's...i did on methadone and after a month/half i was normal...except sleep patterns are last thing to return....if uyou went into a 30 or 60 day program you would be surprised all the time youve been wastin chasin that high feeling that youlol never get again like the first year or two on heroin...i had two guys i knew died shootin up a regular daily dose and it must not have been mixed right in columbia or afghanistan and must have been a chunk of pure and they died in minutes...od....and youve got a kid now...also because of chronic bone degeneration i lost all my teeth,not sure if it was meth related but use good hygeine,see a dentist,watch your calcium,eat/exercise and pray...may god be with you....chef