Murf,

One thing I forgot is that it does help with sleep but I also take 15mg of remeron to help with sleep also. So I think with the chronic pain you will need a little something to help with restful sleep. It is hard to sleep when you are in pain.

best wishes,
fisherman

Hey fish,
I take remeron also. 30 mgs at bedtime that is the only anti depressant that ever worked for me. Here is something kinda ironic. I just had to write a check for 300.00 to loan to my sister in-law so her boyfriend could pay for his 1st visit and get his meds at a sub doctor. I think I am going to do it. I'm tired of trying to taper and the dissappointment in myself when it doesn't work. I am tired of taking pills every 3 or 4 hours and hoping they last. I need a break. I hope this is the right decision. Also do you have to take breakthrough pain meds very often or does the sub help enough. (If I already asked you that disregard) Thanks for taking the time to help me. You too octomon