OK here is what you need .....talk to ANY Dr. and get on Clonodine..... .1 or .2 mgs once or twice a day...it is simply blod pressure medicine...and will help immensly. Also, ask the Dr. for Quinine pills for night time restless leg (cramping)....let me know how it goes.......and push the water...high vollumes. -Big epop

Boaz;

I'm so sorry you're in the throws of withdrawal and it seems the drugs to help are not working so well but that’s just the way it is. The withdrawal kind of overrides the assisting drugs you’re taking. If you get the nervous legs try walking outside or if you have to walk around the house but keep moving. I would try so hard to exhaust myself with exercise so I could get some sleep or rest. It kind of works. Not sure of the strength of Valium you’re taking but the Dr. prescribed 10mg every 6 hrs and that just knocked my out big time. I wasn’t used to taking a benzo so it worked well for me. I was so leery of the benzo that I cut it off after 3 days though. I think you need a prescription for quinine. Just hang in there, you have a couple days invested now and its going to start to get better. Don’t give in now! And don’t psych yourself out with the dreaded withdrawals. If your into day 2 its not going to be much worse, it will just hang at this threshold for a few days (3 &4 maybe) but then the storm starts to clear up. You can do it! You have to give it your all, if not you will never win! We are here for you Boaz, just keep focusing in on the how good it will be when you’re free from the evil drugs.

My thoughts are very much with you

phil

Hi my dear friends and fellow supporters and sufferers (sp?) I am staying strong to dosing down I thought I could do 4 7.5's yesterday..day one back after caving in, but felt barfy about 9:30pm -10pm and took one more. So I am doing 5 a day for now which = 37.5 mgs of opiates....way down from my highest of 160mgs a day. So the way I feel is yucky but bearable, I still have some intestinal issues and I hope that is a sign that I am going thru slower more tolerable withdrawls. I have about 45 left and will continue at this rate, next month I will go to 35mgs, I just wonder how long I should linger at a dose time wise before going on down....cause I AM going to do it and whip this and never get in this shape again....cause I know what I am, or that I have an addictive nature... I feel achy some, and have a terrible headache..I haven't been drinking much tea cause it seems to make me some what sick, and I want to cut out as much so I can get some sleep. I managed to go to the grocery today, and I found some anti-nauseau medicine in liquid form..phosphate carbonate I think is the main ingredient??Whatever that is?
Loaded that up and some anti-diahreea (sp?) and some quinine that comes in some homeopathic forms..I hope it works when the time comes...
anyone have an idea of a timeline that I can be done with this???
Thanks everyone for your support...I'm gonna do it..the high has no hold on me any longer..I want my normal life back!!

oh an p.s. does quitting or dosing down drive up your BP? I seem to feel my heart beats faster and feel more light headed?