Hey guys. Well.... day 4, lets see... that was this past Monday and yeah, i was still having the "head zaps" or as i describe them (in my best charlie brown character voice) wha wah's as if everything gets real close and then far away really quick. I still had the cold chills through out the 4th day, still had no energy, not much of an appetite, anxious and couldn't sleep and it really does get better and i agree with kim that its a more mental thing, i mean if you thought that punching brick walls all the time made you able to be more social, happy we would probably be talking about the best way to wrap our fists or something, so yeah, its going to be mental and though this is the furtherst out i have ever been in the past 3 years from cold turkey (8 days today) i can tell it will be mental. I am a pain patient and i am in pain, but really, i am in less actual pain now because i am not trying to be superman on tramadol all the time (being superman upsets my bad back). All i have to say is that for me, the physical withdraws seemed to cease all at once which is today. I get an occasional sneeze here and there and boy... one thing.... SEX! I thought i was super stud lasting for over an hour in the sack haha, but i have now found out that its from the nerves being numbed because now, it feels REALLY good, but only lasts a couple minutes at best.... ha.

I agree, the mcneil made pains to make sure it was not a scheduled drug so it could be widely used without strings attached, I believe in advocating for ones self. No doctor is ever going to know as much about your condition then you... (at least in my case, cause i research the crap out of it and then quiz the doctors to test them, i know, i know... my mom hates that).

for 6 months literatly i was on 2 darvocets, 2 800 mg. ibuphrofen, 600 mg neurontin every 6 hours and it only touched the pain for about 2 hours.... but when i started the tramodol, i was able to stop everything else except the neurontin. Tramodol and my system have major affinity for each other or affection, my body felt like i was on vicoden and speed at the same time, a warm fuzzy blanket.... I took it off and got cold, really cold... I am getting warmer, i hope you get warmer too. If you wanna know anything else let me know. ROCK!