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   NEW here.. fibro..now its thyroid! (Fibromyalgia board)

20th January 2008
Tammy, welcome. Ishla is right it takes a few weeks to feel the effects of the synthroid. It will also take a few months or years to get your thyroid in good shape. I went up to 112mcg of synthroid over a three year period and am now on cytomel which is a T3 drug. It works much better but it took all the trying and working with the synthroid and all the blood tests to figure it out. I hope you have better luck.

Glojer
21st January 2008
Houston great information. I have a question if you don't mind. Did I understand correctly that you had your thyroid in good shape before the CFID/FMS was diagnosed? If so was there one specific thing that made you feel confident about your dosage or a combination of things. I am wondering if you went by your numbers, TSH, T3, etc. or the weight loss factor along with feeling better. Did you have different diet cravings when you knew you were at the right point?

I am asking because I am on my journey right now and am now on cytomel (t3). I feel so much better and my TSH is, or was 5mo. ago below the low end of the lab range. My fatigue is so much better, but there are a few things that haven't come in line yet. At least things I think should be a little better. So I am curious, but I do know that other medication I take could be part of the issue. Thanks Houston.

Glojer
22nd January 2008
Sure Glojer,

Interesting name, by the way. I started my thyroid journey by becoming very overweight in spite of diet and exercise, fatigued, nail ridges, sleep disturbances, food cravings, aggravated allergies, uncontrollable collesterol, and just a whole myriad of small but annoying health issues. My TSH tests were always in the median range though my doctor suspected hypothyroidism. And why not? I was displaying classic symptoms.

When I started having hot flashes in spite of my HRT, my OB-GYN finally sent me to an Endo to find out why I wasn't metabolizing the hormones. She did a TRH test which showed that I was in fact hypothyroid. She put me on Synthroid and several months later when I showed no improvement, she tested me and discovered that I have a conversion problem. I have trouble making T4, the inactive form of thyroid hormone, into T3, the active form. Ultimately, I left her because she over-medicated me making me hyperthyroid and would not consider using anything other than Cytomel and Synthroid.

My next doctor was published and I hoped would be more willing to work with me, but was unwilling to use anything that didn't come out of a chemists shop. I was becoming more and more disenchanted with the pharmaceutical community and their little shops of horror. Now, I understand that there are many drugs that have saved lives and provided relief for hundreds of thousands and millions and millions of people, but I also know that they are drug COMPANIES. Too often I have heard the rumors of them foregoing the cures in favor of "treatments" because that's what makes them money...keeping the patient in life-long need of their medicine or medicines for relief or survival. Nuff said, I'll climb down off my soap box.

After another try with a holistic doctor who was doing quite well at treating and stabilizing my thyroid with a natural desecated thyroid product, but not quite there, yet... Anyway, I went in one day for a routine visit and the spaceship landed. He pronounced my thyroid "CURED" and declined to refill my prescription.

By the time I got an appointment with my current team of doctors eight weeks later and started on Armour thyroid, I had regained some 25 lbs. and my collesterol was back up. I also had osteopenia and several other things going on.

Anyway, they worked with me and slowly got me to a point where I actually felt really great. I was power walking 2.5 miles or more per day, working 80 + hour weeks, had secured a position in the top of my profession with a Fortune 500 company, I was on top of the world and felt stronger than I had since I was a kid. I made this corporate climb while I was getting well with my thyroid team. My TSH is monitored and I test in below the low-normal range. Fortunately, my doctors do not put stock in that score. They say as long as I feel my thyroid is doing well and my bones are not thinning (the osteopenia was reversed under their treatment within two years), that they will go on how I feel rather than the TSH score.

Since my accident and developing Fibro and CFIDS, I have been put on numerous medications for pain, muscle spasms, radiculopathy, memory, etc. Each drug comes with its own set of possible side effects. Interestingly, I was put on these medications to handle the intial pain of a lifting injury with radiculopathy in my lower back. Several weeks later I began having pain in my upper back and neck. It turns out I have a lot of damage and degeneration in my entire spine, especially the cervical spine.

The longer I was treated, the more intense the pain became. I was sent to one PT who pulled on my right leg so hard I literally thought I was going to come off the table. After him, I started having heel pain, too.

I kept going to the doctor. He would change up all of my medications. I would feel worse or have something else go wrong. Eventually my body reacted to the NSAIDs, I thought, because I had blisters and sores inside my mouth. He took me off the NSAIDs. I'd felt awful on steroids, so we didn't go with them or any shots. I developed tremors, tennitus, dizziness and migraines along the way. I couldn't trust myself to walk anymore without holding onto a cane or a walker because I would loose my balance and fall and I was weak. My doctor said I couldn't risk falling with my back. My doctors started saying I might have MS or something. Great huh?

I went through all of the expensive neurological tests for MS and other neurolgical diseases. I was finally dx'd with CFIDS/FMS and began treatment for that on top of the back injury. I was put on additional medication for the tremors and migraines and told it would also help with the radiculopathy, which it does.

Here is a problem. I cannot function at the top of my game mentally anymore due to the side effects and Fibro-fog. I took a neuro-psych exam and tested 35 points lower on the IQ than I normally do thanks to the drugs or the Fibro or both. So now I'm on another medication to help cut the Fibro-fog. It is helping, but it also has a risk of side effects.

For those interested, it is Namenda, an Alzheimer's medication stronger than Aracept. My doctor advised that Namenda is the only one they've had any success with in Fibro patients and, if you can tollerate it, it does seem to help. At least I feel safer driving now than I did before taking it.

Meanwhile, I began researching all of the medications I take currently and, low and behold both, I discovered that some of the side effects of these medications are tremors, tinnitus, migraines, dizziness, muscle and joint pain (I thought they were supposed to treat that?), memory loss, difficulty with memory and thinking, and this is just to name a few. So, it could be that I've been medicated into some of these issues. I'm trying to cut back on my medications for pain and use holistic or natural pain relievers in their stead during the day to see if I get any relief from some of these other problems. I think it may be working a bit.

Anyway, now that I've rambled on, I'll see if I can't more specifically answer your question about how I knew I was well with my thyroid. Most dramatic to me was the weight loss. I went from 240 to 185 within a year and once we hit the right level down to 155 within four months. I'm just under 6 ft. My collesterol came in line and the body aches and sleep problems cleared up. Of course, I metabolized my HRT so no hot flashes, but they put me on bio-identicals for that, too, and I noticed between the two that I looked younger. My skin improved, my eyes looked clear and bright, I had energy to burn. I felt like I was 24 again and, Honey, you shoulda seen me at 24.

The one thing I can advise you with regard to your thyroid and fibro is to be patient. You didn't get either overnight and you're not going to cure them or find your level overnight. In your case with having Fibro, it's going to be a bit harder to figure when your thyroid is just right, but if your feeling your energy so improved right now, that is a good indication. Your body just needs to settle into whatever your ultimate treatment regimen is and you'll need to see what your collesterol and other readings are to know if it's working. Keep your bone density monitored if you go with a low or below normal TSH regimen. I take Magnesium Citrate, Vit D and Calcium in large doses to keep my bones strong and I also eat organic dairy.

Sorry for the novelette, but I do hope this has been helpful.

Bless you on the road to wellness :angel:

Houston
22nd January 2008
Houston thank you so much for all the info, I enjoyed it. My calender tells me that I have been on cytomel for a year in Feb. and I will be getting another blood test then. I take prednisone so my bone density is done on a regular basis, but I guess it was even before the pred. I also keep osteoporosis at bay with vitamins and exercise, so far so good. The one problem I still have is the weight. I don't gain it as fast anymore, but trying to lose even a pound is incredible difficult and if I'm not really vigilant it will be back on me in a blink.

Thanks again, it is late and I will reread your info again in an a.m. when I am more clear. I bet you were something at 24! At 24 I weighed 90lbs. and was a stick with no curves. Now I have curves but they are all in the wrong places.....giggle!

Glojer
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