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   Therapeutic level of Metadate for adults?? (ADD - Attention Deficit Disorder board)

28th August 2004
Quote from Jessicaca:
Anyone know the mg's that would be therapeutic for an adult who weighed about 200lbs.??? Just wondering how far off I may be from it. I don't really notice any changes but my psych had to take a family emergency and we missed our last med check.

I "believe" I'm on 30mg. I take 3pills in the am, I THINK they are 10mg each. right??

Anyone know anything more about Metadate?? I know I am crashing hard from it about 10hrs after my dose. I didn't do so well on a SR version, forget which one so this is our newest go.

BTW, I'm also on Clonipin for Anxiety and Lamictal for BP.

What do you think?


Your'e on Klonopin for anxiety? That's a powerful "downer"(CNS depressant) a benzodiazepine. It is really a anti-seizure med; prescribing it for anxiety is off-label use although this is common. It impairs mental alertness, that may explain if you are having trouble concentrating.

Then I ask, why would you want to be on an "upper"(CNS stimulant) like Metadate? Metadate can also raise blood pressure, and nervousness is a side effect. So, if you have high BP, this is not a good drug to take. If you have anxiety, Metadate can worsen it. Using Metadate is contradicted in use with anxiety patients. Basically, being on Klonopin and Metadete is simply being on uppers and downers....good greif... this is typical of pyshchiatry these days. The FDA has complete info on the drug. I posted the PDF information link below:

http://www.fda.gov/cder/foi/label/2001/21259lbl.pdf
29th August 2004
Quote from Jessicaca:
Yep, I've had a thyroid test, came back odd and went off to the Endo. But everything turned out fairly normal, some slight nodules but nothing completely abnormal and antibodies that apparently just show a possibility of problems later on in life.

I don't take in ANY caffiene ever. I haven't smoked in 5yrs. I've always had anxiety but it was controllable, I'd only have a severe attack once every 3yrs or so. It wasn't until I had my ds, 19months ago that it got bad!!!

I have been in therapy, it wasn't working for me. Seemed we talked about everything but my anxiety issues and I couldn't afford to keep beating around that bush!!!! I know the problem behind my anxiety, I just need to find a way to get past it...somehow.

I think with some more research I'll be able to go to the new psych and tell them that I do NOT want to be on 4 or 5 pills. I am not interested in a cocktail of drugs. I can't keep track of what's doing what and like you said, sounds like onei s making the other worse. How frustrating this is!!! I wish there was just one pill that made my head slow down and act "normal" whatever that is.

Thanks again. I run out tomorrow of all drugs. So I'm off for a month. We'll see how things go. And start over fresh in late Sept.


What does ds stand for? I don't know how long you have been on Klonopin, but after some time the panic can get worse due to benzodiazepine tolerance which may explain the worsening state you are in....plus the Metadate was more fuel for the fire!

Tolerance symptoms: this can happen while you are still on the drug, it's called tolerance withdrawals. Have you read the free online Ashton Manual? It is written by a PHD in the UK who studied and ran a clinic for benzodiazepine withdrawal for many years there. It might be helpful for you...check it out.

I am worried.....how much Klonopin are you on? Did you say you are just going to quit taking it?? You are not supposed to cold turkey this drug, it could be dangerous, even seizures! Please do consult a doctor to stay on it intil you can taper off it properly! :eek:
29th August 2004
Quote from Jessicaca:
ds=dear son

I'm actually running out of Lamictal and Metatdate CD. Not the Clonopin. I called and they said they can't call them into the pharmacy and it's 30mins away from my house, so I'm not driving up there for a script when the appt is Thursday (if I still go). I'm calling the new one on Monday to see if I can get in any sooner.

As for how much Clonopin, the bottle is downstairs but I take 1 twice a day (was up to three times but I got dizzy so I backed it down to 2). I don't remember their mg. but I think it's 10.


DS, how cute!

Maybe we mixed spellings here, because Klonopin is a benzodiazepine used for anxiety, and 10 mgs. would be a huge, huge dose. You keep spelling it Clonopin...do you mean Clonidine instead? That would be an entirely different story, that's just a blood pressure med which can be a bit of a downer effect, but isn't an outright tranquilizer like Klonopin. It may have some rebound hypertension from discontinuation, but no seizures I don't think.

You are cold-turkeying Lamictal??? WHat is your doctor thinking?? I don't think you are supposed to do that either, it's an anti epileptic and you could have withdrawal seizures.

Here's the prescription PDF link......http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_lamictal.pdf
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