Drug Discussions   Link To Us   About Us   Tell A Friend
Home |


 
 

   

View full discussion thread on HealthBoards.com:
   Murphy and anyone interested abut benzos (Addiction & Recovery board)

9th May 2004
Some interesting quotes:

Prof Malcolm Lader
Psycho-pharmacology
King's College, London

"It is more difficult to withdraw people from benzodiazepines than it is from heroin"

"The withdrawal symptoms you get are so intolerable that people have a great deal of trouble coming off"

"with benzodiazepines a proportion of patients go on to long term withdrawal and they have very unpleasant symptoms for month after month"

****************************************


“It is a tragedy that (these steps) are needed 50 years after benzodiazepines were first introduced. They could have been foreseen and prevented but instead the skeleton was locked away in the cupboard for many years. Now we are faced with worms that are crawling out of the woodwork including not only the problems of long-term prescribed users but also the increasing spectre of illicit benzodiazepine abuse.”


Professor H. Ashton Newcastle University


****************************************

“Perhaps a third of all drugs are now prescribed for their placebo effect, and sedative-hypnotic drugs much more than most.”
Charles Medawar Social Audit

“ For years, most doctors have assumed that benzodiazepines must have worked because patients kept taking them…..thus dependence has been reinforced – as has the belief that these drugs can go on working for years.”Charles Medawar Social Audit.


****************************************


“Drug company research and development often serves marketing strategies more than sound science or patients’ safety.”
JS Cohen MD

“More than half of the experts on FDA advisory committees have financial relationships with pharmaceutical companies, that will be helped or hurt by their decisions.”USA Today

“An industry so important to public health and so heavily subsidized and protected by government has social responsibilities that should not be totally overshadowed by its drive for profits.”
Dr M. Angell New England Journal of Medicine.

“When doctors irrationally deny or dismiss (patients) honest complaints, the message is clear : Doctors first allegiance is not to their patients but to the medications they prescribe.”Dr JS Cohen.

****************************************


“ Increasing numbers of people have been turned into drug addicts through legal prescriptions which perhaps suits the politicians and multi-national bureaucrats as well as the drug companies for it ensures an uncomplaining and docile community which is easy to administer, manage and manipulate...tranquillisers are more addictive than heroin."

Dr Vernon Coleman
****************************************

Phil Woolas MP
Depurty Leader House of Commons
(on the subject of benzos - 12.2.04)

"These drugs are responsible for more pain, unhappiness and damage than anything else in our society"

“The story of benzodiazepines is of awesome proportions and has been described as a national scandal. The impact is so large that it is too big for governments, regulatory authorities and the pharmaceutical industry to address head on, so the scandal has been swept under the carpet."
Phil Woolas M.P. Deputy Leader House of Commons
****************************************


"If there's a pill, then pharmaceutical companies will find a disease for it." Jeremy Laurance, The Independent, April 17, 2002

****************************************
The Committee on Safety of Medicines (1988) gave Guidelines to all doctors that benzodiazepine drugs should be used for 2/4 weeks only.



Barry Haslam. Brain-damaged by overprescription of Ativan.


“Not only did doctors not keep to the CSM Guidelines but their inept and atrocious ‘clinical judgement’ coupled with their arrogance, has of today resulted in creating 1.2 million iatrogenic benzodiazepine drug addicts in the UK – The Lunatics are running the Asylum.”
10th May 2004
[QUOTE=mise ata ann]Some interesting quotes:

Prof Malcolm Lader
Psycho-pharmacology
King's College, London

"It is more difficult to withdraw people from benzodiazepines than it is from heroin"

"The withdrawal symptoms you get are so intolerable that people have a great deal of trouble coming off"

"with benzodiazepines a proportion of patients go on to long term withdrawal and they have very unpleasant symptoms for month after month"

****************************************


“It is a tragedy that (these steps) are needed 50 years after benzodiazepines were first introduced. They could have been foreseen and prevented but instead the skeleton was locked away in the cupboard for many years. Now we are faced with worms that are crawling out of the woodwork including not only the problems of long-term prescribed users but also the increasing spectre of illicit benzodiazepine abuse.”


Professor H. Ashton Newcastle University


****************************************

“Perhaps a third of all drugs are now prescribed for their placebo effect, and sedative-hypnotic drugs much more than most.”
Charles Medawar Social Audit

“ For years, most doctors have assumed that benzodiazepines must have worked because patients kept taking them…..thus dependence has been reinforced – as has the belief that these drugs can go on working for years.”Charles Medawar Social Audit.


****************************************


“Drug company research and development often serves marketing strategies more than sound science or patients’ safety.”
JS Cohen MD

“More than half of the experts on FDA advisory committees have financial relationships with pharmaceutical companies, that will be helped or hurt by their decisions.”USA Today

“An industry so important to public health and so heavily subsidized and protected by government has social responsibilities that should not be totally overshadowed by its drive for profits.”
Dr M. Angell New England Journal of Medicine.

“When doctors irrationally deny or dismiss (patients) honest complaints, the message is clear : Doctors first allegiance is not to their patients but to the medications they prescribe.”Dr JS Cohen.

****************************************


“ Increasing numbers of people have been turned into drug addicts through legal prescriptions which perhaps suits the politicians and multi-national bureaucrats as well as the drug companies for it ensures an uncomplaining and docile community which is easy to administer, manage and manipulate...tranquillisers are more addictive than heroin."

Dr Vernon Coleman
****************************************

Phil Woolas MP
Depurty Leader House of Commons
(on the subject of benzos - 12.2.04)

"These drugs are responsible for more pain, unhappiness and damage than anything else in our society"

“The story of benzodiazepines is of awesome proportions and has been described as a national scandal. The impact is so large that it is too big for governments, regulatory authorities and the pharmaceutical industry to address head on, so the scandal has been swept under the carpet."
Phil Woolas M.P. Deputy Leader House of Commons
****************************************


"If there's a pill, then pharmaceutical companies will find a disease for it." Jeremy Laurance, The Independent, April 17, 2002

****************************************
The Committee on Safety of Medicines (1988) gave Guidelines to all doctors that benzodiazepine drugs should be used for 2/4 weeks only.



Barry Haslam. Brain-damaged by overprescription of Ativan.


“Not only did doctors not keep to the CSM Guidelines but their inept and atrocious ‘clinical judgement’ coupled with their arrogance, has of today resulted in creating 1.2 million iatrogenic benzodiazepine drug addicts in the UK – The Lunatics are running the Asylum.”

Very good post!!!! I wonder why doctors' basically completely ignore the prescribing guidelines, don't you?
18th May 2004
Quote from doggreensector:
I think that grey got it right that everyone thinks that their drug of choice is the worst. The wd's from opiates are nothing compared to benzos. Although from what I have read that the wd's from benzos can be more dangerous.

I think if you look hard and long enough you will find some person out there swearing up and down that this drug or that drug is the hardest to get off of and has the worst withdrawals. I have heard this about cigarettes. I have heard that people who are addicted to alcohol and get the dt's have it the worst with the hallucinations and delusions.

Why the need to prove "my drug is worst then yours?" I think they all suck.

Keith


Yes, benzos can be more dangerous with seizures and psychosis possible from larger dose cuts. Benzos also have something very unique called Benzodiazepine Protracted Withdrawal Syndrome, which happens to a percentage of people. It can last for years. Not many other drugs have that added woe.

But all withdrawals are hard from most drugs. What really sucks is when someone becomes an accidental addict through taking what is prescribed and then they are told it is them, not the drug by their doctor. I mean, at least when someone abuses a drug they know what they are in for, and they know they must change their behavior. Not the same for the accidental one, who follows their doctor's advice and when they develop tolerance/tolerance withdrawals, their doctor says it's not being caused by the drug. This is one of the most insulting things that can happen to someone who doesn't abuse drugs or alcohol, and only trusted their doctor on their supposed condition. No wonder most of us are bitter and angry!

And I agree, all drugs suck! When are people going to get that? :confused:
6th June 2004
Blue Julie
Just get as much info as you can. Tpye benzodiazepine into google - it is all there.
If I can answer anything - please ask?
They are truly drugs from hell. Mind altering......... chemically mind changing - unlike opiates. Take great care. If you feel that you can do without them - then do so. The view is now that they should be used for anaesthesia only and not for anxiety or panic attacks.
But - dont listen to me - go and do lots of reading - its all there.
Good luck
Mise
Copyright ©2009 DrugTalk.com All rights reserved.
Powered by HealthBoards.com
This site is owned and operated by iCentric Corporation
Do not copy or redistribute in any form!