31st May 2004
Paracelsus,
Wow thanks for that post! =) However, I did not forget Green Tea, I have it lumped under DHT Inhibitor-analogues.
I believe that Green Tea and Equol (heard of this?) are our analogues that will bind to DHT receptor sites and do only that. Those are the ones that I would definately pick over the others, because as you've mentioned, they won't interfere with testosterone or estrogen production.
Of course, by reducing your overall steriod hormone production, as dietary changes do, that helps even more. You brought out a point that I don't like to emphasis, but it is true, if you starve yourself, you probably will have clear skin. However, if you reduce certain foods that play a major role in spiking your insulin or IGF-1 levels, you can also reduce/eliminate your acne.
Unfortunately, that doesn't prevent your body for eliminating the production of DHT (you've only lessened it). So if you have androgenic alopecia or hirsutism your follicles will still respond to whatever DHT levels you are currently producing. That's where the Inhibitors, or better yet the Analogues, come into play. if you combine those with dietary changes, then theoretically, you've got a powerful protocol against the effects DHT.
I personally have noted the effects of only being on Spiro (and some other hormonal drugs), of being on Spiro and my customized diet, and only being on my diet. The Spiro & Customized Diet was the best combination for my mild hirsutism (did nothing for hair loss), but my diet was the best combination for my acne. So I know I need something that is going to prevent the conversion of DHT (but can by phytoestrogenic), and also Block the effects of DHT. That's why I'm playing around with Saw Palmetto for the moment, but I know the previously mentioned supplements are more powerful (already had it so why not?).
Oh and most definately a lot of these inhibitors seem to work topically as well. The only concern is using those that don't induce systemic effects for the males. Use of topical green tea and avodart may indeed work since, saw palmetto, beta-sitosterol, Spiro, & Finasteride work topically. Not to mention our more common inhibitors such as RetinA, Azelex, and other topical retinoids, but they don't provide lasting results, hence the want for a transdermal patch huh?
Have you tried Green Tea yet? That patch experiment does sound interesting, especially over pill popping, but not at that price ;-)
Thanks
Wow thanks for that post! =) However, I did not forget Green Tea, I have it lumped under DHT Inhibitor-analogues.
I believe that Green Tea and Equol (heard of this?) are our analogues that will bind to DHT receptor sites and do only that. Those are the ones that I would definately pick over the others, because as you've mentioned, they won't interfere with testosterone or estrogen production.
Of course, by reducing your overall steriod hormone production, as dietary changes do, that helps even more. You brought out a point that I don't like to emphasis, but it is true, if you starve yourself, you probably will have clear skin. However, if you reduce certain foods that play a major role in spiking your insulin or IGF-1 levels, you can also reduce/eliminate your acne.
Unfortunately, that doesn't prevent your body for eliminating the production of DHT (you've only lessened it). So if you have androgenic alopecia or hirsutism your follicles will still respond to whatever DHT levels you are currently producing. That's where the Inhibitors, or better yet the Analogues, come into play. if you combine those with dietary changes, then theoretically, you've got a powerful protocol against the effects DHT.
I personally have noted the effects of only being on Spiro (and some other hormonal drugs), of being on Spiro and my customized diet, and only being on my diet. The Spiro & Customized Diet was the best combination for my mild hirsutism (did nothing for hair loss), but my diet was the best combination for my acne. So I know I need something that is going to prevent the conversion of DHT (but can by phytoestrogenic), and also Block the effects of DHT. That's why I'm playing around with Saw Palmetto for the moment, but I know the previously mentioned supplements are more powerful (already had it so why not?).
Oh and most definately a lot of these inhibitors seem to work topically as well. The only concern is using those that don't induce systemic effects for the males. Use of topical green tea and avodart may indeed work since, saw palmetto, beta-sitosterol, Spiro, & Finasteride work topically. Not to mention our more common inhibitors such as RetinA, Azelex, and other topical retinoids, but they don't provide lasting results, hence the want for a transdermal patch huh?
Have you tried Green Tea yet? That patch experiment does sound interesting, especially over pill popping, but not at that price ;-)
Thanks