- I'm posting more lab results...need help 16th October 2003
... would you say I should start with, either T4/T3 or armour , to get my TSH from 4.66 down to around 1.0?
Edited...
... doctor will probably put you on the lowest dosage ( armour , or T4/T3) ... i started on 50 mcg, and now think...
- Newbie 16th October 2003
... that, and felt better immediately. So then he gave me Armour , I asked for it, 1/4 grain, 2x a day. I was OK for ... input please? I feel like I just want to stop the Armour all together, so that maybe I will feel better. I...
... got worse everytime I needed a dose increase on my Armour . See if you can raise dose again. If you feel better...
- hot flashes and nausea, and i'm NOT in menopause ... 16th October 2003
... have a maximum tolerance for T4 of 112mcg. Even on Armour when I raised my dose to where the T4 part of it was...
... //www.healthboards.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] On the Armour I can actually go up to 150mg, which I think is 120mcg ... as far as, I'm almost shaky. I was at 180mg of the Armour and the hyper kicked in, but still hadn't got rid ... of being tired. So right now, I'm at 150mg of Armour and about 20mcg of Cytomel(there were broken tablets ... kind of weird taste. I'm thinking I need to drop my armour just a tiny bit more and add more cytomel. Not sure...
... Well I believe I have truly crashed and burned on the Armour /Cytomel combo. That'll teach me. I should just get ... allergy/itch list. Never had that before. Back to just Armour 165mg. Have been on 150 and 180, so I compromised...
- MIDWEST...how are you feeling? 16th October 2003
... Hi...I was wondering how the Armour is going? How much are you taking?
I started yesterday ... Hashimoto's~Hypothyroid
Diagnosed in May
Just started Armour ...
... but they have definitely improved since starting the Armour . I remember after starting the Synthroid, the sx ... hadn't had started. This hasn't happened with the Armour . So far, I have no hyper symptoms, either. I feel ... little afraid to exhale, LOL.)
So you've begun the Armour adventure, eh? I'm very eager to know how it goes...
... Hashimoto's~Hypothyroid
Diagnosed in May
Just started Armour ...
... midwest1, I always love it when someone gets switched to Armour and starts doing better. It helped me so much that ... I feel like a "born again Armour preacher". If you react anything like I did though...
... Hope you'll soon be enjoying the benefit of your Armour , the way I am.
IWL!
Thanks so much for the heads ... -up about regression after starting Armour ... I wasn't aware that might happen. I know what ... Synthroid made me hyper. For this trial month on Armour , I plan to follow orders closely and see what happens...
... rarest side effects to Levoquin, etc. When I took the Armour the first day, I really did sit there and wonder if...
- A question for everyone 15th October 2003
... Hashimoto's~Hypothyroid
Diagnosed in May
Just started Armour ...
- Meep - would you mind looking at? 15th October 2003
... reading your posts on this board, I understand that Armour is not the correct T4/T3 ratio for humans. Armour ... more like 9:1. I know that you, for example take Armour and Unithroid. I would like to discuss such an approach ... 50mcg dose of Levoxyl is ok, and I equate that to Armour at .5 gr (from the Forest charts), which at 4.22:1 ... ratio of 9:1. This would be something like .25gr Armour , plus 30 mcg Levoxyl. This seems right to me.
T3 ... Keeping the T3 constant from the equivelent .5 gr Armour dose, I would raise the T4 to a ratio of 9:1. This ... would be something like .5 gr Armour , plus 50 mcg Levoxyl. I believe this would put me...
... Unithroid.
If T3 needs a bump, but T4 is OK, add more Armour , adn drop a little Unithroid, etc.
DON'T use Armour ... using the following information:
two grains (120mg) Armour = 76mcg T4 + 18mcg T3
1 1/2 grains(90mg) Armour= 57mcg ... T4 + 13.5mcg T3
one grain (60mg) of Armour = 38mcg T4 + 9mcg T3
1/2 grain (30mg) of Armour= 19mcg ... T4 + 4.5mcg T3
1/4 grain (15mg) of Armour = 9.5mcg T4 and 2.25mcg T3
Currently I take 1 1/2 ... grains (90mg) of Armour and 100mcg Unithroid, so my dose breaks down like...
... DON'T use Armour 's guidelines for med equivalences, as they are only ... using the following information:
two grains (120mg) Armour = 76mcg T4 + 18mcg T3
1 1/2 grains(90mg) Armour= 57mcg ... T4 + 13.5mcg T3
one grain (60mg) of Armour = 38mcg T4 + 9mcg T3
1/2 grain (30mg) of Armour= 19mcg ... mcg of Synthroid and my new dr Rxed me 1 grain of Armour , I was worried that was too much, but after seeing ... Hashimoto's~Hypothyroid
Diagnosed in May
Just started Armour ...
... Originally posted by lovemythreeguys2002:
DON'T use Armour 's guidelines for med equivalences, as they are only ... using the following information:
two grains (120mg) Armour = 76mcg T4 + 18mcg T3
1 1/2 grains(90mg) Armour= 57mcg ... T4 + 13.5mcg T3
one grain (60mg) of Armour = 38mcg T4 + 9mcg T3
1/2 grain (30mg) of Armour= 19mcg ... but it is available in the prescription insert for Armour as well as on their website. A REALLY good breakdown ... do a web search on "how to switch from synthroid to armour ". Use those exact words, including the quotes, and...
- OK, Now what to do? That is the question. 15th October 2003
...
Also wanted to note I did talk to the endo about armour . He did turn his nose down to it immediately. He...
... how your body is working. Some people who switch to Armour or add cytomel can actually stop their anti-depressants...
- Gray hair.. 15th October 2003
... Hashimoto's~Hypothyroid
Diagnosed in May
Just started Armour ...
- Have an endo appt - anyone have experience with ... 15th October 2003
... them take your cytomel away unless they prescribe Armour instead!!! Good luck. IWL...
... But I need to try adding T4. I’m going to ask for Armour , b/c to me it is comparable to the breastmilk/formula ... things, but who knows what else is needed. If not armour , I will certainly want a T4/T3 combo.
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- Uptake scan results and some questions too.... 15th October 2003
... Hashimoto's~Hypothyroid
Diagnosed in May
Just started Armour ...
- My thyroid bkgrnd/Question 15th October 2003
... our new city. He tested my thyroid, took me off of Armour and put me on either Levoxyl or Synthroid. A couple...
... they should put you back on the desicated thyroid( Armour ). You need to get a copy of your labs, hopefully they ... they didn't do them and see if they can change you to Armour possibly. You're going to have to stop doing what...
- can thryoid alone cause this acute fatigue and severe muscle weakness?? 15th October 2003
... TSH and T3 are normal but T4 high - just switched to Armour last week. For the last year I have had severe fatigue...
... When I went hypo due to eating soy and taking Armour with other supplements, I was so tired and my muscles ... I stopped the soy and my Dr added cytomel to the Armour and the pain stopped in 2 days! That was about 2 months ... ago.
Good luck to you and I am glad you are on Armour ....
... TSH and T3 are normal but T4 high - just switched to Armour last week. For the last year I have had severe fatigue...
... to try and kick start my metabolism.
I switched to Armour (still taking some thyroxine as well) 4 weeks ago ... antibodies) but want to wait a while to see how I settle on Armour .
So I would say persevere with the Armour for now...
- Is it important to know 15th October 2003
... Hashimoto's~Hypothyroid
Diagnosed in May
Just started Armour ...
- Libido issue 14th October 2003
... everything, and I am praying she suggests cytomel, or armour - the synthroid just isn't making it anymore!
My previous...
... After I was switched to Armour , my husband became a real Armour fan too. Okay, that...
... phxgem,
Just ask for Armour . Tell your Dr you want to try it. Maybe go to the ... Armour web site and print some info that you can take with...
... Hashimoto's~Hypothyroid
Diagnosed in May
Just started Armour ...
... LMTG, It took 5 or 6 weeks on Armour to bring me back to life. Maybe you've had thyroid...
- Doctors driving me NUTS-no help with hair or Armour 13th October 2003
... your horrible experience. I do know that you can get Armour thru drug companies on the internet. That was going ... give her the conversion chart you printed off of the Armour site. Maybe she is afraid of not knowing where to ... start you off on the Armour .
Good Luck to you.
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Please pardon...
... I am on Armour for about 5 or 6 months now. My doctor went on Maternaty ... was taking her place while she was gone put me on Armour , at my insistance! When my doctor came back, I was ... question around that she asked you. Why not go on Armour ???? You will find that the doctors have no answer ... to go to see her and tell her that you are going on Armour with or without her help. Tell her that the only ... in the first place was because you found her on the Armour website. Tell her that you really don't want to change ... The only valid reason for a doctor not to put you on Armour is a heart condition. The readily abosorbed t3 does ... system for at least two weeks and when you start the Armour you are almost overdosing for a couple of weeks. ... like speeded. But it goes away, so if you do get the Armour , stay with it for at least a month. My nails are...
... weight gain sometimes associated with it.
So, while on armour ... my hair grows like a weed. Armour for me has definitely ... to find another doctor on the list to switch you to armour . I feel for you... it's really terrible what we have...
... went this morning and asked for a perscription of Armour . He explained to me that each time you refill you ... may not get the same strength, it fluctuates with Armour . Which means more bloodwork, which for me being a...
... of information is wrong!! The FDA test these drugs. Armour is regulated and it does not vary in strength.
I ... have been on it for 25 years. Go to the Armour web site and fax the infor to your DR....
... converting T4 to T3, may not even be able to. Insist on Armour . Find a new Dr. if you have to. You don't have to ... came armed with literature on it and he gave me the Armour . Good Luck, IWL...
... serious problems with doses for some time now..NOT Armour . Your Dr is confused!!...
... years taking Levoxyl and Synthroid. After 5 months on Armour and not yet on the proper dose, because my doctor ... doesn't know anything about Armour . I will have my last confrontation with my doctor ... skin, my mental outlook, and clearity of thought. Armour did a long time ago have some problems in thier manufacturi...
... m teasing. I was really angry after I switched to Armour and had such a dramatic/miraculous improvement. I ... up and down dozens of times. Never once mentioned Armour . Came to find out, he didn't even test FT3. I'm still...
... worse. He looked at me and listened and I went back to Armour . So I do know the difference adn it is night and ... Advocate in cases like this. Insist that you try Armour !...
... For those on Armour ....did any of you have joint or muscle pain? If so ... Hashimoto's~Hypothyroid
Diagnosed in May
Just started Armour ...
... with the perscription,it states;
Common brand name; Armour thyroid, Bio-throid, Cytomel
Does that mean that cytomel ... is the same as Armour ? It is a throid replacement fot T3. He is having other...
... when I went hypo about 2 months ago. I was taking Armour , but eating a lot of soy and taking the armour incorrectly ... added cytomel and I started taking the cytomel and Armour 1 hour before breakfast. My pain went away in about...
... LMTG, When I started Armour (before), I had alot of muscle pain. A few weeks into ... Armour , I gradually lost the muscle pain and for about 2 ... good-bye to my joints. When I recently cut back on Armour to add some Cytomel, I had a little of that joint ... stuff again. Upped my Armour back up a little(lowered it too much) and it went...
... print it out and send it to him? I wish you could try Armour . I bet it would make a difference to you.
I have ... been taking Armour and Cytomel for about 2 months now. Cytomel is a synthetic ... T3. Nothing is Armour but Armour thyroid. I don't rally understand the information...
... haven't already had them. Cytomel is one ingredient of Armour . Armour has all the hormones your body normally produces...
- Could cytomel make me go hypER? 13th October 2003
... ignorant if, with a TSH of 4.66, you're not either on armour or cytomel ... the TSH range used to be .5 to 5.0...
- buy Amour on internet? 13th October 2003
... from outside the US. There are people who are getting Armour from Mexico and swear by it, BUT if there is a problem...
... that I follow has several people who are buying their Armour from a Mexican website sans prescription. Maybe they...
... who is treating you appropriately and prescribing Armour . Wondering who you are seeing and where she is located...
... doctors are so cautious about helping and prescribing Armour . Maybe they are afraid they will make you hyper?...
- normal levels for thyroid tests please 12th October 2003
... within normal range. Well, no more!!! I went on Armour and I am going to a TSH of at least 3 , if I have...
- does everyone normally start taking meds right away after being diagnosed? 12th October 2003
... another year. I’m finally with a GP who switched me to Armour and is willing to let me adjust my dosage according...
... hypothyroid are replacement hormones such as Synthroid, Armour , Levoxyl)
Two completely different conditions with...
... diagnosed hypo @ 25 years ago and the Dr started me on Armour right away. I think you should ask about meds....
- Going to Endo finally! 11th October 2003
... other hand, my new doc started discussed Cytomel (T3), Armour and free T4 with me, on his own. Promissing.
Soooooo...
- I'm switching to Armour today - advice please ! 11th October 2003
... that it had porcine gland in it, which is same as Armour basically. With adding selenium too, I ended up becoming ... hyperthyroid which wasn't fun.
As for when to take your Armour . Take it in the morning a hour before breakfast. Some...
... my experience. I was on Levoxyl prior to going on Armour . The halflife of Synthroid, Levoxyl all of the synthetic ... t4's, is much longer than Armour . So, if you have been taking one of those prior to ... starting Armour , you may experience some hyper symptoms. They stay ... in your system for a while. Armour works now! The t3 is rapidly absorbed in your gut ... for this reason. I want to add that I have been on Armour now for about five months and I love it. I have been ... hypo for over 15 years. Armour is the best that I have felt in that time. My doctor ... is not happy that I am taking Armour and is insisting that I go very slowly with increasing ... dosage. She knows nothing about Armour and has never had a patient on Armour. In the five ... has been 9.33. I would rather have a TSH of 9.33 on Armour than a TSH of 5 on Synthroid or Levoxyl.. The first ... how bad the joint pain was. Now it is gone. I love Armour and am asking myself and anyone I can find, why did...
... Originally posted by TikkiRo:
Just switching to Armour today - will it be ok to take with homeopathy remedies ... interpretation, you sound like a good candidate for Armour and it will likely help you, BUT, I feel that you ... leave your system while you are slowly incerasing the Armour , and you'll avoid having hyper symptoms as much this...
... I am starting Armour too....YAY! [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb...
... Originally posted by lovemythreeguys2002:
I am starting Armour too....YAY! [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb ... lunch etc....ackk
Some people DO recommend taking Armour with food, but I don't. Taking a medication that ... BLOCKS the absorbtion of T4 rather than slowing it.
Armour has both T3 and T4, but it has a high ratio of T3 ... problem for many people already. In fact, I take Armour plus a Synthetic T4 to add back enough T4 to make...
- how does selenium help 10th October 2003
... help with fatigue and muscle pain. I have split my Armour dose 2 gr am 2 gr pm and am taking 20 mg cortef (recently...
... as these two work together. I have been taking my armour in the a.m. and then about 4p.m. I take the selenium...
... what was said here about the adrenals and t3. I take Armour twice a day but I take 90mgs in the morning and 45...
... happened on Synthroid alone. Now that I'm taking Armour , I've suspended the Se for the time being, just in...
- Hashi's --advice needed 10th October 2003
... symptoms will only get WORSE. You might want to ask for Armour with is a natural med that should help you better ... looks like your synthetic T4 med isn't doing the job, Armour has T3 & T4 in it plus T1 & T2. In the meantime you...
- Nodules, FNB's, scans, cancer....confused, help! 10th October 2003
... suppress my gland at all, that was with Synthroid, should Armour do a better job?
There is a side of me that just...
- Start Off At What Dose? 10th October 2003
... What is a good starting point for Armour thyroid for "most" people? On 75mcg Levoxyl. Couldn...
... There is a conversion chart on the Armour site to see what the equivalent doasges are.
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- what do you guys take for hair loss? 9th October 2003
... days. I have not seen a change yet. Now I read about Armour causing less or no hair loss. Does anyone have info ... on the side effects of this Armour ?...
... I am a big fan of Armour . I have beed taking it for 25 years. As far as I know...
- New here and need advice please. 9th October 2003
... tests. If your Dr won't order them, go on line to the Armour site and look for a Dr in your area. No one should...
- Still learning 9th October 2003
... for me. Keep in mind that many people do better on Armour thyroid than they do on the synthetics. That's not...
- Amount of Armour 9th October 2003
... surgically removed years ago and is on 4 grains of Armour . She’s a clinical psychologist with a full case load...
- what can happen if your goiter is removed? 8th October 2003
... doctor about synthroid, it isn't working for you! Armour or another med with t3 and t4 might work better for...
- thyroid cancer - painful pins & needles 8th October 2003
... was already Hypo.
The good news is, I just started Armour thyroid 4 days ago and it's already getting better ... on Levothroid for almost 3 months before starting Armour , and the pins & needles just wouldn't let up. I have ... hope with Armour that this will go away. God, I hope so!!
Oh, and...
- Analyze this please 8th October 2003
... know why, but I'll make sure next time.
I'm on 60 mg Armour since last Friday. (was on 100mg Levothroid prior...
... converting over to T3? I don't think you've been on Armour long enough to increase the dosage, but I may be wrong...
... reflect the correct values as you have only been on armour one week.
Just my 2 cents [img]http://www.healthboards...
... rotten for so long. But at least it feels like the Armour is working, unlike the Levothroid.
I go back in a...
- Looking for some input! 8th October 2003
... and levoxyl. or there is natural thyroid which is armour which has t1,t2,t3, and t4. there is also thyrolar...
... What she would likely benefit from is a low dose of Armour and get off the other meds. A natural replacement ... like Armour supplies you with T1, T2, T3, T4 and calcitonin. T2 ... calcium. That's why so many of us sing the praises of Armour ... or Westroid, Naturethroid and now defunct Proloid...
- Now What Do I Do? 8th October 2003
... tell me what to do? I am currently taking 120 mg. of Armour . I don't know if I should just stay with the current ... dose, should I add 25 mg. of Levoxyl with the 120 Armour or should I decrease the Armour and add some Levoxyl ... . The tests were done without Armour for 24 hours. I am feeling fine except that I think...
- lab test 8th October 2003
... hormones don't give you immediate relief, ask for armour . It might make all the difference. Keep experimenting...
- lovemythreeguys... Re the new doctor 8th October 2003
... can hardly believe it! I have a Rx for a trial of Armour (30 mg), and a follow-up appt in a month.
I spent...
... can hardly believe it! I have a Rx for a trial of Armour (30 mg), and a follow-up appt in a month.
WOOOOOOOOOO...
... just a little slack... ~chuckle~
My first day of Armour ? Well, I know the effect must have been imaginary...
... must have hashis.
I bet do you feel good from the Armour , I have heard the T3 is felt right away! That's great...
- Hi, I'm new here....... 8th October 2003
... concerns about cancer, but I have just started on Armour myself, taking my third dose today.
I'm not surprised ... after switching to the natural hormones contained in Armour . I'm hoping for such a result myself....
... i'm not surprised you haven't heard of armour either ... you work in a dermatologist's office (no...
... thyroid replacement. I will visit with him about armour , but want to arm myself with as much info as I can ... of good info out there on the net.
I did check out armour in the PDR in the office I work. I was absolutely ... amazed that the info on armour takes up only about 1/4 a page in the PDR and synthroid ... located? And what type of physician did you find to Rx armour ? Just might have to broaden my search if I cannot ... locate a physician in my area who treats with armour . Especially if I continue to have symptoms of hypo...
... healthboards.com/ubb/confused.gif[/img] I have a friend on Armour and is doing great.I had one Endo talk about any med...
...
I'm glad to hear your friend is doing so well on armour . I have not read anything negative about armour as ... there in message board land have any other info about armour to share?
Pat
...
... myself to a homeopathic MD who I learned prescribes Armour after finding his name on a thyroid-information website ... and other alternative practitioners who prescribe Armour . Sometimes a particularly enlightened GYN or GP will ... to treat thyroid problems and may be open to using Armour . There is one member here who took charge after doing ... dose and when to increase, etc.
For some reason, the Armour just works better for many people. It was the original...
- what is the difference between Armour and Synthroid? 7th October 2003
... No Armour isn't for more severe cases of hypothyroidism. Armour ... It has been found that many patients do better on Armour because of the T3. I personally feel that Armour ...
I am so grateful for this site, I learned about Armour here and since I am now taking it I am able to see...
... Girlygirly-
Boy, you are so right about Armour ! I just started taking it on Friday, and already ... ve continued to check, and it's steadily rising on Armour , it even hit 98.6 yesterday, and a little while ago...
... and the next day called my doctor. He never offered Armour and I never heard of it until this board, but he called...
... I totally agree, Armour is a natural hormone replacement. I believe it is ... synthetic replacement, Synthroid. I have been on Armour for 25 years, with one breif switch to synthroid. ... had symptoms of hypo on synthroid, and went back to Armour ....
- Ha! I knew it! Lab results; looking for "Top Doc" in MN 7th October 2003
... healthy and happy baby. You should really look into Armour thyroid as it has both T3 & T4 as well as T1 and T2...
... present my case. I do know an osteopath that prescribes Armour , but he doesn't accept insurance. So I do have an...
... these symptoms," he prescribed something for you ( armour ?), and you were treated -- none of this STUPID relying ... on numbers ONLY) ...
some people swear by armour , but it has too much T3 for some people, so don't ... hope you're better with a synthroid/cytomel combo, or armour ...
baby steps!!
your certified nurse practitioner...
- meep,, help 7th October 2003
... think it is hogwash that the military doesn't carry Armour , it sounds to me like a military doc is showing his ... with a fairly current formulary...it DOES include Armour . They may not stock it on all the bases, but it CAN...
- test done,, help,,, 7th October 2003
... heart palp thats i wanted somthin more natural like armour ,, well the military dont carry that stuff,, and i ... have such a low level of t-4 ? and where can i get armour if thats better,, thanks,,...
... malfunction.
And in hindsight, I wish I had known abourt Armour . My doctors never even told me about armour. I found...
- Frustrated on Synthroid!!!! 7th October 2003
... but they kept having to raise the levels. Then took armour , which was better but not great. I found the website...
- anyone's advice please 7th October 2003
... relentless search I found one who gave me a trial of armour and then cytomel.
go to [url="http://www.drlowe.com...
- symptoms 7th October 2003
... Last week, after reading this board I switched to Armour . Immediately, I mean the first night, my hands didn...
... I am going on Armour also, and cannot wait [img]http://www.healthboards...
- is there any hypos that have not gain weight? 7th October 2003
... and be sure synthroid is working for you. I prefer Armour , but every one is different. You may have to experiment...
- Does zinc work for hair loss 7th October 2003
... I have found that in the 6 mos. that I've been on Armour for hypo, my hair loss has gotten SO much worse! ...
- taking levoxyl & synthroid, weight and dose 5th October 2003
... as Unithroid, or you could go with a combo med like Armour ....
- Can't decide best time to take my meds... 5th October 2003
... What are you taking. I take Armour and Cytomel and take it 1 hour before I get up for...
... meals daily (when I can swing it) so I take my meds ( Armour and Unithroid) sublingually, and have for a few years...
- I'm fine.don't worry! 5th October 2003
... Dawn, Answer my post under Armour and Cytomel when you get time. Thanks, IWL...
- Confused-Hyper or Hypo???? 5th October 2003
... everything I have asked for, including a prescription for Armour Thyroid. I'm not saying that all Endo's are bad, but...
- Arms and legs falling asleep faster 5th October 2003
... Yes, I am on Armour 90 mg. and seem to be getting hypo symptoms back. ... set up with two different endos. One is a big fan of Armour . Anyone else have suppressed TSH while being hypo...
... dm, Did you read the armour cytomel thread. My tsh is lower than my dr. would ... remission of hypo symtoms. I don't know if lowering Armour and adding some cytomel helps with the tsh or not ... osteo later. Besides I've read good studies on how Armour helps prevent and improve osteo. Good luck, IWL...
- Too much carbimazole ? - it seems being on it too long may have damaged health ?? 5th October 2003
... your dr. if you can add some cytomel(T3) or switch to Armour . IWL...
... the T4 supplement and add a bit of T3 or switch to Armour (which has both T4 and T3 in it).
I feel that it...
- 7-Keto Dhea 5th October 2003
... dreams all night. Is this because I've lowered my Armour and not getting as much T3, the DHEA, a simple co...
... thing I guess. Or it's because I have both doses of Armour in me and since I take the second one in the late...
... does get frustrating, doesn't it? I'm also taking my Armour in 2 doses now altho the second one is only half of...
... I meant to mention that a few weeks into Armour I had a three or four day headache. Wasn't awful, ... people. Take care, IWL P.S. I think they say to up your Armour about every 2 weeks. I didn't always wait that long...
... here. I'm the one that finally insisted, begged for Armour . My regular MD had never prescribed it before, but...
... IWL's question: "Is this because I've lowered my Armour and not getting as much T3" -- yeah, probably -- i...
- cytomel(?) and armour? 4th October 2003
... never get rid of my hypo symptoms. When I changed to Armour , got rid of most of my hypo symptoms except tired ... nervous, but still feel some hypo. I have lowered my Armour some and will start cytomel next week. I don't have...
... Most people do not need Cytomel and Armour at the same time. The reason for this is that Armour ... often than not, you would want to add a T4 med to your Armour to restore the balance rather than a T3 med like Cytomel ... which pushes the T3 even higher.
I take Armour and Unithroid for that reason. My daily dose is 100mcg ... Unithroid and 90mg (1 and a half grains) Armour .
I determined my dosage by measuring Free T3 and...
... agree with you... I would hit the wall at 3.5 grains armour with still having hypo symptoms but shaky. What you ... there may not be agreement about needing cytomel with armour . BUT... we are all very very very different in our ... .. many of us who do not find our self at 100% on armour may actually be partially resistant.... ON THE CELLULAR ... was wrong with me or why I was not back to 100% on armour ....the stuff with the too high of a ratio of t3 [img ... being in this situation... made reductions in my armour in order to handle more t3. This must be done very ... out of your system. You also don't want to make the armour deduction too big or too fast because then you could...
... Dawn, I reduced my Armour from 195 to 180 for 2 weeks, then from 180 to 150 ... that and maybe a little lower. The first few weeks on Armour were the best I'd had in years, so I know T3 is my ... with? Has it been long enough on the lower dose of Armour ? I am doing this without supervision, although I'm ... cytomel? Can I start the cytomel and then lower my Armour a little more? That way I don't get all my hypo symptoms...
... I am new to Cytomel. I was on 3grns of Armour and became hypo, T3.08 because I was eating a lot ... of soy and taking the Armour with my other supplements.
Since I was taking Armour ... stable again.
By the way, I was stable on 2 grns of Armour thyroid for 20 years. I forgot I have this disease...
... i'm not on armour so can't speak to that, but i take synthroid and MUST...
... of t4 isn't noticed for 2weeks.
By reducing your armour you obviously are also reducing your t3, which is...
... Dawn, My md wasn't really comfortable doing the Armour . He has a few patients on it, but they are monitored ... start the cytomel. Almost immediately(day 2) on the armour though, my pulse went to 70 and my blood pressure...
- HYPO ?? 4th October 2003
... Did you new doc do tests before he started you on armour ?
If you get all your test results and post them along...
- crawley itchy things ... 4th October 2003
... I look and nothing is there. Well, I just started Armour today, so I'm praying things start getting better...
... with DH as I'm feeling semi-good today. (just started Armour on Fri.) Which is strange to me. Hopefully it will...
... my innards improved dramatically when I started the Armour . Have fun on your trip. LOL IWL...
... and will try that tonight.
How long were you on Armour before you started feeling really good, and what is...
... hour before I eat anything. I feel alot better on Armour , but I did hit that T4 wall, had to lower my dose ... me because I don't. I started sleeping so good on Armour . If you need to up it, just call your dr. when you ... downhill on vacation. I felt my best the first month on Armour , but for me it was because the T4 hadn't built up...
... pill cutter than the one I have here.
Glad to hear Armour helped you sleep better, were you having a difficult...
... while she's away (because shhe's just a beginner on armour too)? because it makes whatever you eat go right thru...
- Suppressed TSH-HELP 3rd October 2003
... quite high and free T3 was low....
I am going on ARmour next week!
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... quite high and free T3 was low....
I am going on ARmour next week!
good luck with the armour! my TSH is...
... quite high and free T3 was low....
I am going on ARmour next week!
It isn't a Synthroid problem per se, but ... that many doctors just can't seem to see.
Getting on Armour will likely help you feel better, but you should still ... after that. This can be helpful, even when you are on Armour , since Selenium is an important antioxidant and a...
- ? about thyroid, T4 and body temp 3rd October 2003
... My body temp before I started Armour and after I had been on Synthroid for 6+ years was ... 96. The first month I was on Armour it did a gradual tiny slow little climb. I'm usually ... now. Did go from too cold to too warm though. Before Armour my temp during the day would go to 99 or 100 though...
... icicle year round. I'm 34 now. Before starting on Armour my morning temp was 96.4. After 18 months on thyroid...
... hyper on the T4 before my body can change it to T3. Armour helped me alot. IWL...
... the suddenly hot thing, then cold sometimes, even on Armour . Probably happens when my T3 is almost gone. I am...
... like a yo-yo between 1.5 - 0.01 on the same dose of Armour . Have been on 2 grains for last 12 months. Yet dr...
... ll be able to fix that soon. Since I've dropped my Armour in preparation for adding cytomel, I am going downhill...
- hair falling out on Armour! HELP ! 3rd October 2003
... correct. It also takes time before you feel better on Armour , or any other med. But I have to ask why did you ... come to the States to get Armour when you can get it in Canada. Its called Thyroid...
... tried.
It makes no differnce as I cannot stay on Armour even though I belive it in,see the piont of it..if...
... do. It does not contain calcitonin, T1 & T2 which Armour contains. Have you called or emailed the Armour company ... naturopath or homeopath as they are big on taking Armour . Or at least its that way in the States. Hope you...
... Bumblebeepug, I had to switch to Armour to save my hair, but you need free T3 and free T4 ... your levels are. I have seen many people on 240mg of Armour , so you may need more. But...it may also be that you ... 're not converting enough of the T4 in the Armour and need to lower it a little and add T3(cytomel) ... . Your tsh would indicate you just need more Armour , but it is not a very reliable test. There must be ... some drs. there that will work with Armour . Try and stay calm. It takes awhile to get the levels...
... armour is called "parke davis thyroid" here, or just "thyroid...
... any thyroid drug ... your hair falling out and your armour treatment were just "coincident in time" (doctor-speak...
- having a really bad day 3rd October 2003
... culprit. I suggest upping your Cytomel or getting on Armour . Plus taking selenium and evening primrose oil may...
... By the way I am taking 3 grns of Armour and Cytomel. Maybe get retested and see if you levels...
... get when you take your medicine(unless you're taking Armour ), the T3 is what your body changes it into. Even without ... a thyroid, this process takes place. I switched to Armour (T3/T4) because my body wasn't converting and it also...
... and there's another thyroid drug for hypos called armour (parke davis thyroid here in canada) that contains...
- Taking decogestants and hypo 3rd October 2003
... and I also asked at the pharmacy when I switched to Armour . The pharmacy said don't take it if you have high...
- hair loss 3rd October 2003
... of hypo responding? You may need another med, like Armour . Yes, I am a pro Armour person, but I did take synthroid ... and falling out too. I have been ob cytomel plus armour for 7 weeks and I am feeling Much better, and I am...
... I'm for Armour too. Always had hair loss and missing eyebrows and ... like what your thyroid used to produce and that is Armour . I think it's important for bone health in particular...
... months after I got my throid out and feeling o.k on Armour ..and all proud that I did my research and got what...
... change meds. Also maybe you can add cytomel.
I think Armour is so much better than synthroid, but every body is...
... feeling tired by 6pm).
I'm going to ask my dr about Armour when I see him on the 14th.
bumblebeepug, I'm sorry...
- Synthroid Dosages 3rd October 2003
... might want to talk to your doctor about prescribing Armour Thyroid to you.Armour is a natural med made from thyroid ... synthroid for a few months and I had my doctor switch to Armour , it's only been a week so it is still too early to...
- anyone with this problem? 3rd October 2003
... I have been on armour for about 4 months now. i am now at 240 mg. every...
... I am not taking armour , but about a year and half ago I was having the same ... and tell him whats going on I don't know much about armour but perhaps it needs increasing or there is another...
... tamnter, I've been on Armour for about 3 months now and have went through sort ... at all, judging by how sick I was before I started Armour . I've dropped my dose back to 150mg and am going to ... some Cytomel. Still compared to how I felt before Armour , I am grateful. How long since you've had lab tests ... Those are pretty important numbers when you're on Armour especially.
I know how you feel when you go backwards...
- Newly(ish) Diagnosed - can anyone help pls? 2nd October 2003
... months seems like it's long enough. When I changed to Armour , I got rid of the puffy eyes, lost about 8 pounds ... and hair started growing back in too. I'd vote for Armour . IWL...
- Newly treated 2nd October 2003
... better to one of the other thyroid replacements, like Armour , so you may have to experiment with several. I find...
- Residual Effects? 2nd October 2003
... I started this a month or two before I switched to Armour and it did help some. I suspect it was the magnesium...
... the other ones with dinner. I take my second dose of Armour at 3:00 or 4:00, so I don't want all those pills causing ... obstinate. I whine alot, but I don't get any sympathy. Armour was the first thing I've ever taken that didn't cause...
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By the way, when I started Armour , it was right after the dr. tried me on 3 different ... been over 100 for over 3 years. A few days into the Armour (which, keep in mind has T3 i.e. cytomel)my pulse went...
- how to get back on track 2nd October 2003
... I felt better almost instantly when I started the armour and obviously that was because of the T3. Worth a...
- Need support, feeling terrible 2nd October 2003
... diagnosed with hypo. My doctor has put me on 1/4 grain Armour once a day. It sounds like a small dose to me. How ... 3.6 and the anitbody test I had was negative.
The Armour website says most people start at 30mg unless they...
... Heather, I was Dxed with a TSH of 3.56, I am starting Armour soon and will be starting one 1 grain. You might want ... TSH go...new research is finding out that many on Armour do well with their TSH at 0....also, the free T 3...
... trusting my body and instincts as far as the amount of Armour I need, but I don't want the doctor to get defensive ... him to let me up my dose weekly (according to the Armour websit) as my body sees fit.
Thanks so much for the...
... people who have begged their doctor to put them on Armour ? That is a very low dose though and I suspect he had...
- Need Armour doc in Pittsburgh, PA 2nd October 2003
... read on another site that Dr. Goldstein prescribes armour and is a "top doc" (for whatever thats worth). Unfortunate ... and listens to my sypmtoms, but as for prescribing armour I have no idea. I never asked, but I doubt she does...
- Lab results 1st October 2003
... dlkk, I vote for Armour and the right tests. Do you have as much trouble getting ... and he doesn't do those herbal fruits & nuts cures( Armour )!!! That was a quote. Her dr. is 75, she is 79. I ... even sent in Armour literature and made my mom fill out a checklist for...
- Saw "top doc" today. Need help. 1st October 2003
... high hopes but they got dashed rather quickly. I'm on Armour :
TSH <0.04
Ft4 1.0 (0.8 - 1.8)
Ft3 157 (230-420 ... Synthroid with no addition T3. Has two patients on Armour "only because they like natural products." At first ... looked at me like I was crazy. She also told me each Armour pill was different and the dosage in each pill was ... go back in one month and stay on my current dose of Armour unless she calls and tells me something about the...
... have to find a dr. that prescribes and deals with Armour and how important your free T3 level is. Each Armour ... Everyone needs to ask over the phone if the new dr. uses Armour for very many patients!!! The disappointment is even ... cytomel(T3). I asked on another thread if lowering armour a little and adding cytomel would help tsh look better...
... a "top doc" and the blurb stating she "prescribed Armour ". Well, I went to her and asked her about that and...
- ??? about upping Armour 1st October 2003
... experience...LOL....BUT just happy still that I am on Armour ... [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/smile.gif...
... upping my dose at about that rate when I was first on armour ... 30mgs is very very very small and could in a short...
... do much good..I have HIGH hopes for tho, for this Armour to finally get this stuff under FULL control...Boy...
- adrenals and thyroid connection? 1st October 2003
... I had what felt like kidney pain when I started Armour , after a few weeks. I asked my dr. if it could be...
- Children and hypothyroid 1st October 2003
... Synthroid since I was 17, and recently switched to Armour . My symptoms have never entirely cleared up, but...
... again, thanks to these people right here, I am now on Armour and am starting to feel HUMAN again...You need to...
