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  1. Help !Increased Meds and feeling dizzy??? 9th December 2004
    ... Hi, I recently increased my Armour 1 grain started on 1/4 grain for a month then a 1...
    ... much meds for me, or maybe I cant handle the T3 in Armour , or should I switch to T4 only??? Am I giving the...
    ... first 6-8 months, I felt a little better with each Armour increase, but I'd inevitably crash before the next...
    ... thyroid or something else. Try cutting down on the armour immediately and see if it goes away in a day or two ... definitely causes dizziness. If after you go back to an armour dose and the dizziness goes away, you get hypo symptoms ... re probably like me. You'll need to mix a little armour and a little synthetic. Find your personal balance...
    ... couldn't sleep and I found this board. I ordered armour off the net right then. Then I took armour for about ... but not good enough. I had to constantly adjust the armour to feel normal-- betwen 2.75 grains and 3 grains. ... mixing-- I take 100mcg of synthetic and 1/2 grain of armour . I'm getting very close to my optimal. In the last ... couple of months I've tried 2 grains of armour and 100mcg of synthetic and then 2 grains of armour ... and 50 mcg of synthetic and then 1 grain of armour and 100mcg of synthetic all of which made me hyper ... so now 1/2 grain of armour and 100mcg of synthetic. With all of them I'm close...

  2. Correct me please 9th December 2004
    ... was put on levoxyl. didn't work for me. Switched to Armour 11/30/04 I am on 1gr a day 1/2 am 1/2 pm....I feel...

  3. Nature-Throid vs Armour 8th December 2004
    ... take synthetic T4 (Unithroid). I have never taken Armour so I can't compare and have no idea if it would differ ... got too much T3. As far as I know it is the same as Armour only different binders and fillers. My dr is very...
    ... saw a difference between the Naturethroid and the Armour . Just food for thought... I don't know what could ... though, since I am stable, healthy and happy on my Armour /Unithroid cocktail. :))...
    ... Meep, do you take both Nature-Throid and Armour ? The reason I'm asking is because when I couldn't ... get Armour at my usual place on the internet, I found a place ... bottle of that. I was going to finish taking the Armour before starting on the Nature-Throid, but was wondering...
    ... Meep, do you take both Nature-Throid and Armour ? The reason I'm asking is because when I couldn't ... get Armour at my usual place on the internet, I found a place ... bottle of that. I was going to finish taking the Armour before starting on the Nature-Throid, but was wondering ... weight you have lost. Thanks. Meep only takes Armour and Unithroid. I take Nature Throid and Unithroid ... for the added T4 is to keep the T4 level up. Both Armour and Nature Throid have a lot of T3, the T3 to T4 ratio...
    ... Meep, do you take both Nature-Throid and Armour ? ... I was going to finish taking the Armour before...
    ... Yes, it's like Armour , only by prescription in the US and Canada....
    ... one place that sold it but it ended up just being Armour , hahaha. I would like to try the Nature-Throid...

  4. Ugh!!!!!!!!!! 8th December 2004
    ... another doc....... Also, I am reading alot about Armour ? Should I give this a try and how do I go about it...
    ... allergic to the Big S. Of course, I'm doing well on Armour , so I think it's the créme de la créme. I can't take ... Surgeons - Doctors of Osteopathy- D.O." You can find Armour -prescribing MDs on Armour's website....

  5. My dog is gaining weight on levothyroxine 7th December 2004
    ... I gained weight when I increased my Armour dosage cause I was hungrier. I went from 60 to 90mgs...

  6. I'm giving up hope :( 7th December 2004
    ... and the doctors say I'm fine, so I started taking Armour Thyroid on my own and feel so much better! I started...

  7. Question about t3? 7th December 2004
    ... along with it because of this. The ratio of T4/T3 in Armour is higher than it is in humans. Too much T3 can drive...
    ... So would you suggest adding t4 to armour therapy. For example I am currently on 1 grain Armour...
    ... Hi, This is interesting! I'm on Armour and Thyroxine. My Free t4 level is at the top of the...
    ... numbers but as I'm still pretty tired, has increased my Armour by 1/2 grain. He wanted to increase my thyroxine but ... hyper. I'm now on 125 mcg thyrox and 21/2 grains of Armour . Enough to fell an elephant but it seems like I need...
    ... Kirlian photography and how something natural like an Armour pill would give off more light than a "dead" Synthroid ... Right now, I'm almost a week into my little-sliver-of- Armour test (7milligrams). I've been adding it to my morning ... covered in acne! Its nice. Just 7 milligrams of Armour . Amazing! I bought some melatonin from GNC and...
    ... so glad you are seeing some improvements with the Armour . It worked great for me - its the difference between...

  8. READINGS AND COMBO MEDS NEED HELP!!![from the pros] 7th December 2004
    ... Hi All; Need some help. Have been taking 90mg. of armour for about 5 months[probably not the full 90mg for...
    ... Hi, I can relate, I am on Armour 1 grain it has been about 10 weeks on meds and so...
    ... No, I didn't have any problems after armour it was previous to taking meds. I retained water and...
    ... gross to talk about, but how long after you were on Armour did your symptoms go away? Also, did the Vit. B and ... Has your bloating/fluid retention gone away since armour ? How long have you been on Armour? Sorry for all...
    ... gross to talk about, but how long after you were on Armour did your symptoms go away? Also, did the Vit. B and ... Has your bloating/fluid retention gone away since armour ? How long have you been on Armour? Sorry for all ... take them just before bed. I have been on 90mg of armour for about 7 months. I took myself off unithroid yesterday...
    ... call the dr. but today I am going to add some more armour I have some 30mg. left from the beginning and I am...
    ... Hi Pickapro, I have been on Armour 1 grain (2nd day of this dose), I started on 1/4 grain...
    ... I too have been taking Armour with some success (although not close enough to call ... decided to try Synthroid. Added 50mcg to a grain of Armour I've taking and... so far I'm feeling worse :-). ...
    ... I too have been taking Armour with some success (although not close enough to call ... decided to try Synthroid. Added 50mcg to a grain of Armour I've taking and... so far I'm feeling worse :-). ... 5mcg at a time and see what happens. I upped my own armour to 105mg and am feeling some better. At least I don...
    ... Hi All; Need some help. Have been taking 90mg. of armour for about 5 months[probably not the full 90mg for...
    ... need. Yes, I do take my meds correctly. I upped my armour by 15mg and called and informed the doctor of what ... 5mcg at a time, but first I will get use to the added armour . I will try and find a copy of the book you recommended...
    ... need. Yes, I do take my meds correctly. I upped my armour by 15mg and called and informed the doctor of what ... 5mcg at a time, but first I will get use to the added armour . Sounds like a good plan. Is your doctor in on...
    ... was taking myself off the unithroid and upping the armour and then I would be adding the unithroid back in alittle ... month so that my body gets use to the increase in armour first. Thank Again for your help it is DEEPLY APPRECIATED...

  9. Headaches 7th December 2004
    ... dosage or when I am slightly overmedicated. I take Armour . I get a mild headache and eye pain. My memory gets...
    ... improve. Now, that I've added the 7 milligrams of Armour ...I'm totally migrane free. You can try adding...

  10. Amour Drug and Weight Gain 6th December 2004
    ... to control my weight easily before I started taking Armour . I also had thick, lush hair. Not anymore. I have...
    ... I was able to loose 22 lbs since I started Armour , diet and exercise. Then I needed a dose increase...
    ... Mint, How long were you on Armour , and what dosage did you start at. Was it hard for ... just hoping for a little inspiration, I have been Armour for 10 wks. My dose started at 1/4 grain now it is...
    ... that's my theory. All that said, you should give Armour a try if you haven't yet. The anecdotal evidence...
    ... out of the question to change. I'm also not so sure Armour is available in Canada either. Even when making apts...
    ... It's not just armour or synthroid - I am on cytomel and I can't stop gaining...

  11. Help with lab results please? 6th December 2004
    ... in August and given thyroxine and then additional Armour . I started feeling much better about six weeks ago ... told me to stick at 125 mcg thyroxine and 2 grains of Armour for two weeks and then have some more labs done. ...
    ... in August and given thyroxine and then additional Armour . I started feeling much better about six weeks ago ... told me to stick at 125 mcg thyroxine and 2 grains of Armour for two weeks and then have some more labs done. ... Felix x Hi Felix Maybe you're on too much Armour and it's making you hyper which can leave you feeling...

  12. Too much Armour!! 6th December 2004
    ... Looks like I will have to back off the Armour . Lastnight I could not sleep because my heart was ... to see what my bloodtests look like. :) How much Armour are you taking now? I heard that you can get heart...
    ... outpaces the t4 to a big degree when taking 1oo percent Armour . You could always scale back a smidge on the ... Armour and add in some t4 in its place for a truer "human...

  13. Armour and Hot Neck 6th December 2004
    ... energy - or it could be a rash - like when I took Armour my ears got red hot and I developed a rash on my ears...
    ... Its a milder version of when I took a lot more of Armour . Probably took to much too fast...and I got menacing...
    ... allergy. Many people are allergic to the fillers in armour . You may ask your doctor for thyrolar or westhyroid ... alternative preparations for people who are allergic to armour - or try synthetics.... good luck...

  14. When You Change From Synthroid To Armour 5th December 2004
    ... The Armour website has a conversion chart on their website, in ... it, 125 mcgs of a T4 med would equal 1 1/4 grains Armour . However, individual differences in conversion and...
    ... The Armour website has a conversion chart on their website, in...

  15. Hypo and can't sleep 5th December 2004
    ... take Melatonin. I've just added more T4 along with my Armour and it's really helping me out in the sleep department...

  16. Anyone with a stiff neck? 5th December 2004
    ... noticed it will go away for a while after I take my Armour dose. It's basically mostly just to the right of...

  17. Where can I see pictures of Armour Thyroid pills ? 4th December 2004
    ... pictures. No colors. That's only for synthetic. Armour pills are round and beige. I haven't seen them all...
    ... am trying to figure out if my pills are generic or Armour . If you can tell me what the markings say on your...
    ... All the Armour s are the same color, just different sizes. And ironically ... Perhaps if you can find a picture of a genuine Armour tablet - [Have you checked Armour's website, or a ... prescription bottle always tells what's inside. If it's Armour , it says so on the label. If it's generic, it has...

  18. itching questions 4th December 2004
    ... clawing myself to stop the itch. The first day I took Armour , the itch totaly went away....

  19. Midwest 3rd December 2004
    ... Wessling. I like him alot and he has been starting me on armour ; a small dose to begin with. Since I have been on...
    ... the synthroid he started me on a very low dose of armour 1/8 grain for two weeks. That is when he retested...

  20. TSH osteoprosis & cardiomyopathy 3rd December 2004
    ... sent me to an endo. Saw the NP who changed me to 30 Armour increased to 45 two weeks later after I insisted, ... test results and reported she couldn't increase my armour because if the TSH got any lower, I could get osteoporosis ... cardiomyopathy. HMMM. Here are the results being on Armour 30 for 2 weeks, 45 for 2 weeks and 60 for 1 week. ... cytomel. I told her I would like to hang out with the armour until my next appt to give it more time. If the T4 ... replied that if she did, she would have to reduce my armour significantly, because of the conversion to T3. ... She did finally agree with me hanging out with the Armour for a while.... Any insights will be appreciated....
    ... osteoporosis and cardiomyopathy. Since I have been on Armour for a little over a month, I don't have the heart...

  21. Just switched to thyrolar.... 3rd December 2004
    ... on Synthroid, synthroid and Cytomel, Cytomel alone, Armour , armour and Synthroid.....Now starting Thyrolar tomorrow ... Haven't had great results before except for the Armour . About three days after starting Armour I felt great ... back now. Got my labs back when I was on 2 grns of Armour plus 50 mgs. synthroid Ft3......2.57......range 2...
    ... on Synthroid, synthroid and Cytomel, Cytomel alone, Armour , armour and Synthroid.....Now starting Thyrolar tomorrow ... Haven't had great results before except for the Armour . About three days after starting Armour I felt great ... back now. Got my labs back when I was on 2 grns of Armour plus 50 mgs. synthroid Ft3......2.57......range 2 ... trouble getting your T3 up, you should stick to straight Armour or straight Thyrolar (I prefer the more stable Armour ... T4 is fine, but you can't raise your Thyrolar (or Armour ) becase you may go hyper on the T4 if you do. By ... would have made more sense to have you on 3 grains of Armour than to have you on the combination you were on. ... the road, it might make sense to add more T3 to your Armour in the form of Cytomel. You need to discuss this ... doses of meds and what they contain: 2 Grains of Armour plus the 50mcg Synthroid has 126mcg T4 and 18mcg T3 ... Thyrolar has 100mcg T4 and 25mcg T3 3 Grains of Armour has 114mcg T4 and 27mcg T3 (I recommend this) The...
    ... do with my low ft3 ????? When I first started the Armour I felt GREAT and then a week later became even more...
    ... do with my low ft3 ????? When I first started the Armour I felt GREAT and then a week later became even more ... affect neurotransmitter levels. When you started the Armour , you felt better due to the extra T3, but then your ... effectively raise your T3 above what it was on the Armour , it may very well help some. I hope so.:) Also...
    ... split your dose and take half of your thyrolar or Armour in the morning and half in the afternoon. Many of...

  22. Strong Connection between Perimenopause and Hypo symtoms?? 2nd December 2004
    ... Other than the cream, I take 1 to 1-1/2 grains of Armour thyroid. I definitely feel much better since I started ... to four times per week for about 45 minutes. The Armour Thyroid has definitely gotten my body temperature...
    ... a RELIEF it has been to read this thread. I'm on Armour 90mg right now, and I wouldn't trade my Armour for ... DOCTORS all over the US who will use NATURAL stuff like Armour thyroid, and Bioidentical hormones! I'm going to ... to me (for instance) that since I have to take my Armour twice a day because of the afternoon "drop off" he ... could put my Armour in time released capsules instead. He can make it...
    ... symptoms have not resolved themselves with just my Armour thyroid. I've read that DHEA, for instance, and Cortisol ... no idea. I like his timed release of the T3 (in my Armour ) so that I don't have to take it twice a day. Lynn ... just about a week my TSH fell like a rock. Natural Armour is so smooth. Probably, the natural hormones would...
    ... Maybe that is why I'm having such a hard time with my Armour thyroid. I can't for the life of me understand how...
    ... found very interesting. I've been messing with my Armour thyroid since February. Now, because I don't do well ... on synthetic meds, I really want to stick with my Armour . But I just can't seem to get it worked out. In...
    ... another thyroid forum, and someone was saying that her Armour was a real failure until she found out her estrogen ... was too low. Now that it is balanced her Armour is great. Heck, as far as hypothyroid goes so...
    ... this." "I'm keeping you on your synthroid, and adding Armour ." "We are going to gradually add they armour over ... prescription until we SEE how I'm doing on this addition of armour . He said that the worst that can happen is that you ... off of it come January...once I get rolling with the armour . He said that should "clear up" once my thyroid is ... had even ordered from a mexican pharmacy Cytomel AND Armour ...and he said "Well? How'd you FEEL on it?" lol..and ... everyone...and for those whom need it, you need to add armour ...and you need to take it in optimal amounts! COOL...
    ... wait with, LOLOL. So, how is he gonna increase your Armour ? What battle plan did he give ya? I think it is ... great that he will consider mixing the Synthroid and Armour . I liked taking the Synthroid, but it just didn't ... me. :( I'M SO GLAD FOR YOU!! Do you start the Armour tomorrow? You'll have to let your meds melt under...
    ... of synthroid, and for five days ADD a 1/2 grain of Armour , then add another 1/2 for 5 days, and then another ... going to gradually be 100 synthroid, 1 1/2 grains of Armour , and then we RETEST to see how it's starting to show...
    ... to FEEL a difference, I'm not sure whether it's the Armour addition ( I suspect it is) or it's the progesterone ... notes and see IF we are similar. I also notice on Armour that I'm going to the bathroom alot more too! ...
    ... ~ I bet it's in combination of the TWO...both the Armour helping make the progesterone MORE effective? Because ... calmness didn't kick IN until I started taking the Armour two days ago? Again, I bet this stuff goes hand...
    ... My calmness, must be also related to adding the armour AND the progesterone stuff...cause I've never been...
    ... third month. She was pleased to hear that I was on Armour now. She told me to just have patience...and the Armour...
    ... thyroid it is considered natural and good in the case of armour ! ;)...
    ... I KNOW! lol I was thinking the same thing! lol Armour ...and horse urine! lol But, I'm assuming that the...
    ... thyroid it is considered natural and good in the case of armour ! ;) Huh? I thought that Armour/NatureThroid WERE...
    ... wrote better...this evening I'll try and tackle it. Armour is the "natural"....worry not. It's the Mare's urine...

  23. hypo and thin? 2nd December 2004
    ... tried it all, I can't seem to lose weight. I take Armour , and in my last appointment, my numbers were perfect...
    ... weight gain began right about the time I started taking Armour which was about 3 years ago. How do you stay thin...
    ... hypo and THIN too. I try to GAIN but can't. I'm on Armour thyroid. My Mom is hypo, and overweight, go figure...
    ... I am overweight but since I have been taking Armour . Well lets just say "I smile when I hop on the scales...

  24. the pest is back 2nd December 2004
    ... tirdness , levoxyl caused headaches and enternal shakes, armour aggravated my asthma.So I swapped to Nature throid...

  25. flax seed oil & thyroid meds 2nd December 2004
    ... seed oil is a "no-no" when taking hypo meds (I take Armour ). Can anyone shed some light on this? I currently ... seed oil capulet daily about 6 hours after I take my Armour . It helps greatly with menopausal night sweat symptoms...
    ... seed oil is a "no-no" when taking hypo meds (I take Armour ). Can anyone shed some light on this? I currently ... seed oil capulet daily about 6 hours after I take my Armour . It helps greatly with menopausal night sweat symptoms...

  26. Can Hashimoto's cause estrogen deficiency? 2nd December 2004
    ... dx'd with hypo/Hashi's, and NOT until I was put on Armour thyroid hormone. (was on Levothroid for 3 months and ... didn't help that pain one tiny bit). 4 weeks after Armour , the pain was gone. But it still comes back, if my...

  27. headache suffers ONLY. 1st December 2004
    ... I didn't take my Armour yesterday and I woke up with a headache. Not sure...

  28. Question about pain!!!! 1st December 2004
    ... I am taking Armour . I have reduced the dose because I felt like hyper ... suppressed. My t4 was low. I was planning on stopping the Armour for two weeks before I get bloodtests in hopes it...
    ... I was sweating it. So, I'll just keep taking my Armour and tell the doc(if he happens to ask) ;) It has...
    ... ! I was sweating it. So, I'll just keep taking my Armour and tell the doc(if he happens to ask) ;) " (End of ... Reply: You mean you obtained a 3 mo. supply of Armour and take it along with whatever the doctor prescribed...
    ... moments it gets ok. I am more stiff since I started the armour . but I am atributing that to the change in meds. ...

  29. Hi all (Newbie) and also question for MIDWEST1 1st December 2004
    ... ve been lurking for a few months after starting on Armour for hypothyroid. I finally decided to join the group ... your recent posts that you recently increased your Armour from 90 mg to 120 mg and after some troublesome symptoms ... very in tune with my body. I have not worked with Armour before so this is something all new to me. I will ... say that the Armour has been a life saver and a nice addition to the natural ... enough to show on the blood work. My Doc put me on Armour and now I'm just trying to get leveled out and find...
    ... though I feel sure that's what it was. I think with Armour , you will notice such effects within a couple of days ... symptom I have left since I was diagnosed and taking Armour . He doesn't think they're related to my thyroid and...
    ... muscle aches and they are starting to get better on the Armour . I'll tell you what I take that works great. Metagenics...

  30. Question about thyroid meds? 1st December 2004
    ... the safe side ;) I would like to quit taking the Armour . Does anyone know how long it would take for your...
    ... I would think with Armour you will start feeling the lack of T3 almost right...
    ... was already suppressed the last time before taking Armour at 0.04. My t4 was low and I felt like CRUD. Oh...
    ... the safe side ;) I would like to quit taking the Armour . Does anyone know how long it would take for your...
    ... really counts. If you say I'm taking 5 grains of Armour a day....and you feel great...who are they to argue...
    ... money to find a good doctor. So now I take generic Armour and doing so well. Started in November 1 this year...

  31. Midwest- Question? 1st December 2004
    ... wait until one should increase their meds? I am on Armour 3/4 grain started out on 1/4 then 1/2 each dosing...
    ... wanted to see how you would tolerate the T3 in the Armour before moving up to a grain. Your free hormones...

  32. Meep..Question about something you said - Please Help Me! 1st December 2004
    ... and 5mg of Cytomel). I asked her if she prescribes Armour as I've been thinking of switching. She said she does ... still not feeling better BUT that she doesn't think Armour works as well because it's from pigs and we're humans...
    ... optimum dose of T3? I ask...because as a former ARMOUR tryer myself, I didn't get rid of those muscles aches...
    ... muscle spasms also? And you said you're a "former" Armour user...why'd you stop? Do I understand you to say ... that while on Armour you lost weight? I'm thinking of trying Armour - I...
    ... I stopped Armour for several reasons. 1. I took too much and went...
    ... are easier to tweak, which is a big advantage over Armour , so I'll start there. I still prefer Armour, though ... disagree with him on a few points (he advises taking Armour with food---not a good idea). In his paper he has...

  33. TSH Levels 1st December 2004
    ... know is that I feel ten times better when I take some Armour . Right now, I cut it back to 1-1/2 grains in the...

  34. Ughhh 1st December 2004
    ... going thru the same thing as me. Well I have been on Armour for the past two months. Started on 60 now up to ... eating and exercise routine. I thought maybe the Armour would kick start some weight loss,,, but nope it hasn...

  35. Best meds for Hashi's? 1st December 2004
    ... It made me hyper at the smallest dose. I now take Armour , and there's been no problem like that whatsoever ... stories here, you'll find numerous accounts about how Armour - or one of the other brands of natural dessicated...
    ... also lactose intolerant! I have heard a lot about Armour and am thinking that this something that I would like...
    ... part of the problem... I have heard a lot about Armour and am thinking that this something that I would like...

  36. Could I go hyper!? - Help? 1st December 2004
    ... Hi I increased my armour dosage to 3/4 grain, from 1/2 grain in which is was...
    ... Hi I increased my armour dosage to 3/4 grain, from 1/2 grain in which is was...

  37. WOW what a great day. 1st December 2004
    ... such bad reactions with synthroid she opted for the ARMOUR . And get this, (you would think she reads this board...
    ... The goal is to not get all messed up with straight Armour again. I went that route and it was pretty scarey...
    ... Where are you getting the time released armour ?...

  38. does anyone have bloating? 30th November 2004
    ... since I wasn't absorbing food correctly. I'm new on Armour and it seems to be helping the last "problems" I was...

  39. chest pain 30th November 2004
    ... When I started Armour for the first time I had chest pains, I did not mentioned...

  40. Stupid Question of The Day! 30th November 2004
    ... popular and now we have dried pork thyroid pills ( Armour , Westhroid, Naturethroid, etc.). If society were...
    ... stopped using the gland in their beef. Same thing as Armour ....ground pig guts pretty much. It is of course mixed...

  41. Lab Results- What do you think? 30th November 2004
    ... Ref: 2.3 - 4.2 I am currently on 1/2 grain Armour , (i started on 1/4 grain) its been about a total of...
    ... Ref: 2.3 - 4.2 I am currently on 1/2 grain Armour , (i started on 1/4 grain) its been about a total of ... curiosity what was your tsh level out before starting your armour ?...
    ... doc has you one the right track...you can use more Armour for sure to get your T3 and T4 up a little higher...

  42. Is anyone mixing synthetic and Armour? 29th November 2004
    ... read this board, Is anyone mixing synthetic with armour and how's it working out? I've been on armour for ... I was taking between 3 grains and 2.75 grains of armour per day. Well, the armour site says a grain of armour ... me. Just way too much. So I'm trying 2 grains of armour and 50mcg of synthetic but I think I'm feeling that ... have a different opinion on the conversion rate of armour to synthetic? Does anybody believe that by combining ... armour and synthetic, one is able to reduce one's overall ... the equivelent of just one? I take 1.5 grains of Armour and 100mcg Unithroid. I have been doing this for...
    ... To add more to my post last night: 1 Grain of Armour contains: 38mcg T4 and 9mcg T3 When you went to...
    ... I take 1.5 grains of Armour and 100mcg Unithroid. I have been doing this for ... close to what I'm taking. I'm taking 1/2 grain more armour so 19mcg of t4 and 5mcg of t3 more on the one side ... better on this combination than I did on straight armour . I really think I'm closing in on the optimum combination ... . Although, one of the effects of 3 grains of armour was that my libido was sky high. Too high I think...
    ... in a range of 2.3-4.2), then very slowly adjusted Armour and Unithroid doses testing after each change, until ... morning, I take 100mcg Unithroid and half of a 90mg Armour , adn in the afternoon, I take the rest of the Armour ... have been on so amny different doses of Unithroid and Armour , that I couldn't tell you what they all are, but I ... close to what I'm taking. I'm taking 1/2 grain more armour so 19mcg of t4 and 5mcg of t3 more on the one side ... better on this combination than I did on straight armour . I really think I'm closing in on the optimum combination...
    ... started getting throbbing headaches with the combo armour and levoxthroid(sp?). Well, they weren't actually ... Before I combined I was taking up to 3 grains of armour a day and figured 1 grain equalled about 100mcg of ... what I started with as a replacement-- 2 grains of armour and 100mcg of synthetic. Then, after the bad effects ... weird headaches persisted so I went back to straight armour for a week and am now am trying 2 grains of armour ... about 150mcg so I should have known that 2 grains of armour and 100mcg would be too much. For me armour symptoms...
    ... I would do an experiement on myself. I cut an old Armour pill into fours/then ground (one fourth) up till I ... for so long!) There's no denying the power of the ARMOUR ..! So...the question gets to be...if I did that...
    ... s gone. If you feel that much better on 9mcg of armour which is only going to have about 1mcg of t3, I see ... If I were you I'b be doing half synthetic and half armour and monitor very closely....
    ... higher and my FT3 quite a bit higher. What dose of armour would you suggest in addition to the 150 synthroid...
    ... I would do an experiement on myself. I cut an old Armour pill into fours/then ground (one fourth) up till I ... for so long!) There's no denying the power of the ARMOUR ..! Gotta love that T3! So...the question gets to...
    ... higher and my FT3 quite a bit higher. What dose of armour would you suggest in addition to the 150 synthroid...

  43. Where do I go from here? 29th November 2004
    ... any wonder I'm tired!!! She did however, prescribe Armour 1 grain to humor me, warning me that it was unreliable ... will not be going back there. Since taking the Armour I'm feeling substantially better, but wondering if ... followup, he too tried to talk me out of taking the Armour , preferring to stick to his one size fits all approach ... normal if I found a doc who would increase my dose of Armour slightly considering my TSH is this high? How do I...
    ... and how to treat you! She did however, prescribe Armour 1 grain to humor me, warning me that it was unreliable ... Strike one - Armour has proven more stable and reliable than the synthetics ... t back up? MANY of us can attest to the fact that Armour is just as effective for some and more effective for ... many. There are some who dont' tolerate Armour well, but they are a small minority. Armour isn't ... did, you would have as much chance getting it from Armour as you woudl from taking a bite of a ham sandwich ... back there. I don't blame you Since taking the Armour I'm feeling substantially better, but wondering if ... followup, he too tried to talk me out of taking the Armour , preferring to stick to his one size fits all approach ... (synthroid) You are likely feeling better on Armour because of the T3 in it. You probably have more energy ... normal if I found a doc who would increase my dose of Armour slightly considering my TSH is this high? Yes,...
    ... You may feel better because the Armour has T3 as well as T4 whereas the Synthroid is only...
    ... than bad ones. A number of doctors believe that Armour is made from cow thyroid or sheep thyroid rather than...

  44. Did not feel better with increase? 29th November 2004
    ... Here is a little history: I started on 1/4 grain armour for a month, I felt good about 2 wks in to treatment ... then then felt bad again. Increased to 1/2 grain armour a month later, and i have really not felt any better...
    ... not enough you may still feel poorly. If you are on Armour only you may not be getting enough T4. When your...
    ... 9 Ref: 2.3 - 4.2 I am currently on 1/2 grain Armour , (i started on 1/4 grain) its been about a total of...
    ... those T4 and T3 total or free? I am on 75 mgs Armour . I had to increase recently. Everytime I change...
    ... get and how long did they last for? I am 1/2 grain armour . My doc. upped my dose to 1 grain but I will take...
    ... 9 Ref: 2.3 - 4.2 I am currently on 1/2 grain Armour , (i started on 1/4 grain) its been about a total of...
    ... thanks Dea4 should i just take the full 1 grain armour , and not worry so much about going hyper? nimbeth...

  45. My Test Results 29th November 2004
    ... your labs make you a good candidate for switching to Armour or adding Cytomel so that your T3 could be brought...

  46. Quick Q re: Adding t3 29th November 2004
    ... Hi Soft, My doctor added Armour (now 2 grains) to my 125mcg thyroxine a few weeks ... are more relevant when considering T3 meds. The Armour worked really well for me at the start and I thought...

  47. Thyroid Problems - Doc missed it 29th November 2004
    ... so inexpensive! AT the end of his article he says Armour is only $7.11/mo! That's cheap! Is he expensive to...

  48. Question about Thyroid Medician, 28th November 2004
    ... already know that 240 mgs is a very large dose of Armour . I couldn't say whether it's too much, though, without...
    ... already know that 240 mgs is a very large dose of Armour . I couldn't say whether it's too much, though, without...

  49. How Do You Describe Brain Fog? 28th November 2004
    ... although I have toyed with the idea of adding some Armour type (it seems to be available in China on line with...
    ... although I have toyed with the idea of adding some Armour type (it seems to be available in China on line with...

  50. antibodies 27th November 2004
    ... a storage device for T3 and T4. (The T3 and T4 in Armour is bound to Thyroglobulin in the pills because that...

  51. im back 27th November 2004
    ... question....i know alot of people on here is taking armour along with synthetics such as myself...can the 2 be...

  52. Anyone on Armour? How's it working for you? 27th November 2004
    ... HI Lucy, I am taking Armour and doing really great!!! I am even losing some weight ... temperature has gone up. I was not on any meds before Armour . You should try it too. Of course I had to order mine...
    ... that's fine. I'm not sure if my doctor will prescribe Armour . I'm due to go back to her next month. I spoke with ... pharmacist at my drugstore and they carry Armour . She told me she just filled one for a patient whose ... her. Have either of you had any side effects from Armour ? I've truthfully never heard of it until coming to...
    ... I have been on armour (75mcg) for almost a year now. This was after taking ... for five months. I have had much better success on armour . I still have minor bouts of fatigue and will probably...
    ... I have a question for all of you Armour users... My endo said she doesn't prescribe Armour ... glad to hear that you all are doing so well with the Armour !...
    ... I had an allergic reaction to armour ...my ears got red and swollen - itcy - i couldn't ... ENOUGH - I was freezing worse than when I wasn't on armour ....I stayed on it for two weeks and thought I was...
    ... on levoxyl for a year and it made me feel awful. Armour made a huge difference....
    ... are hesitant or just flat out refuse to prescribe Armour or any other natural thyroid hormone? Do they believe...
    ... I had an allergic reaction to armour ...my ears got red and swollen - itcy - i couldn't ... ENOUGH - I was freezing worse than when I wasn't on armour ....I stayed on it for two weeks and thought I was ... and many others, apparently) to refuse to prescribe Armour ?...
    ... and many others, apparently) to refuse to prescribe Armour ?One huge reason most endos and GPs won't prescribe ... Armour is political. They were educated in medical schools ... were given lucrative incentives to prescribe it over Armour . [Hmmm, does that sound familiar? $$$] They were ... the body will convert as much as it needs to T3. Armour was denounced as dirty, because of its animal source ... detriment. Today, because they've not been educated about Armour 's clear benefit over synthetics, they have no idea ... have had numerous recalls for subpotency issues. Armour has never been recalled since its first use in 1892 ... I had learned on this Board about the existence of Armour , I took myself to a doctor I knew would prescribe ... t even describe it. I will stop short of saying Armour is for everyone. It isn't. But I will say that it ... people, and if you're not getting well on a synthetic, Armour is worth a try....
    ... Midwest, do you have any negative side effects from your Armour ? Was weight gain ever an issue for you? If so, have...
    ... Midwest, do you have any negative side effects from your Armour ? Was weight gain ever an issue for you? If so, have ... start. I've seen a few reports here that the T3 in Armour can cause a 'buzz' effect for a couple of hours after...

  53. Uh Oh! Overmedicating myself??? 26th November 2004
    ... :) I have been taking two grains of Armour for about two months now and think I am overmedicating...
    ... and ft4 is what you look at. I am on one grain of Armour . Started off with 1/2 and upped it to 1 grain. ...
    ... numbness feelings (especially sexually). However, Armour has greatly helped my depression and I finally have...
    ... my options". Remember, I have not been prescribed Armour . I started taking it on my own. They are sending...
    ... Silly sunday, How did you get the armour yourself? are you in the states? I have looked on...
    ... an osteopath? Oh, for the one that was looking for Armour , I originally got it from www.myrxforless.com, a Mexican ... they have "naturethroid" which is the same thing as Armour , but without fillers. You can get it there....
    ... on the phone and found a doctor that will perscribe Armour . I am going in tommorow at 11:30 and I am taking the ... sheet from that armour web page reguarding the dose modification from levoxy...
    ... messed up. I'm hoping the doctor will prescribe you Armour . The only reason I had to get mine from the internet...

  54. alive! 26th November 2004
    ... from you again. I am doing great now since I am on Armour !! God bless :)...

  55. Help interpreting labs 25th November 2004
    ... am only on T 3 and T4 meds. I recently heard about armour and am wondering if i should be on this instead. ...
    ... am only on T 3 and T4 meds. I recently heard about armour and am wondering if i should be on this instead. ... Armour might be less expensive than the separate T4 and T3 ... good reason to change, if the ratio of T3 to T4 in armour is anywhere close to what you are taking. I take ... Armour and a T4 med so that I get the right amounts of T3...
    ... your feedback. I really appreciate it. About the armour : i thought this would be a better choice for me since ... armour contains all the T's (though i am a vegetarian and ... I take levoxyl .150 and cytomel 25mcg. How much armour did you think i should switch to and do i continue...
    ... 3 grains of Armour would give you roughly the same T3 (27mcg vs the 25 ... results. In order of my preference: 3 grains of Armour plus 37.5mcg T4 would be 151.5 mcg T4 and 27mcg T3 ... Pretty close to your current dose... 2 grains of Armour plus 112mcg T4 would be closer to what a properly ... produce at 18mcg T3 and 188mcg 4. 3.5 Grains of Armour would be roughly equivalent and simpler to dose and...

  56. Not sure if Thyroid or Fibromylagia related? 25th November 2004
    ... melatonin instead. Hopefully adding Synthroid to my Armour will help me in the sleep department. Dr. Lowe...

  57. fatigue 24th November 2004
    ... Eight weeks ago my doctor bumped my armour thyroid dosage from 60 mcg to 75 mcg. I take 45 in ... FT4: 1.25; and T4: .56. My question for anyone with armour experience is this: would bumping my dosage up to...

  58. Meep, Midwest, and Other Numbers Experts...Please Help With Test Results 24th November 2004
    ... lose weight." And the link also talks about why armour and not cytomel-- because there are other ts and reverse ... complicated than men but who knows, maybe this site and/or armour will help you. Certainly, to have your symptoms for...
    ... me. One of the sites also said how much better armour was than cytomel. So, if you have to convince a doc ... change your meds, you might want to cut straight to armour rather than ask for cytomel and if that doesn't help ... then go to armour . You know how the docs don't like patients who tell...
    ... probably." This "Top Doc" refused to prescribe Armour . He did give me Cytomel (as a "compromise," he said ... I should continue looking for a doc who prescribes Armour . Oh, and to top off my lovely evening, I came home...
    ... going. Most of them were doing so much better with Armour , that I knew I needed to find an Armour Rx'er so that ... rospective MDs on your insurance list. Ask if they ever Rx Armour ; one who does is guaranteed to know more about TD ... they treat the patient or the lab result. The Armour website has a list of doctors who Rx their product...
    ... doc, if you don't mind my asking? I looked on the Armour site's list of docs, but there were (what seemed like ... face when I asked about the possibility of taking Armour with a small dose of synthetic T4. He called my notion...
    ... endo didn't know what she was doing, I checked the Armour site's physician finder, found the prospective PCP ... half (to make it 2 smaller doses), but it's too tiny. Armour and Synthroid are both that way, very hard to split ... split the dose to get all-day coverage. I take my Armour in one dose, and I have no afternoon lag at all. ...
    ... Midwest, I'm going to call the doctors on the Armour site's list (the few that I recognized, that is) and...
    ... was a Godsend. Also...about the T-MED: I agree Armour is the way to go. Some docs will give it, others...

  59. Losing hope 24th November 2004
    ... very down. I was doing well on thyroxine (125mg) and Armour (2 grains) for my hypo but I got my dosage in a mess...

  60. Barking up weird tree 23rd November 2004
    ... better. I have also heard that natural meds like Armour actually have some of the other T's in them....

  61. calling all hypo's!!!!!!! 23rd November 2004
    ... Before I started on Armour , my temp was around 97 or a little more. Now it is...

  62. Ever had feelings of being dumped by endo? 23rd November 2004
    ... work! for whatever reason they won't give us the armour or the t3, so when we keep pestering them they get...

  63. Doctors Visit and more test results 23rd November 2004
    ... daughter on synthroid (couldn't talk her into the Armour ). She started her on .25mg and and will do blood...

  64. Finding a doctor 23rd November 2004
    ... teleconference and fax and mail lab work and prescribes Armour . Head to toe approach and he actually listens to...

  65. to: meeps 22nd November 2004
    ... thanks for your reply concerning my question about armour . You are right, I had the two tests turned around ... hours after my last dose. I have had great sucess on armour , as compared to levoxyl. A majority of my symptoms ... things: 1) asking the doc to bump me up to 90 mcg of armour , or 2) staying where I am at with the armour and asking...

  66. Question 22nd November 2004
    ... In your view, would this mean I should increase my Armour dose?...
    ... In your view, would this mean I should increase my Armour dose?Well, in my view your MD should increase your...

  67. armour dosage 21st November 2004
    ... My doctor recently bumped my armour dosage from 60 mcg a day to 75 mcg a day. After ... took your meds, but would likely DROP upon starting Armour . This is because Armour has a high ratio of T3 (more ... your T4 will drop. That is normal when you take Armour , and is also the reason that some of us taek Armour...

  68. Acne and hypo 21st November 2004
    ... Since I was diagnosed and put on thyroxine and Armour my skin is awful, especially around the jawline. ...

  69. new here with a questions 20th November 2004
    ... prescribe the natural dessicated thyroid meds such as Armour , are practically guaranteed to have the most knowledge ... he has many thyroid patients, if he ever prescribes Armour thyroid, if he treats by monitoring the free Ts, etc...

  70. you've probably heard it all before...sorry but i've got questions :) 18th November 2004
    ... can feel within a matter of hours. I get my t3 from armour . I also take synthetic T4, which takes several days ... muscle cramps and pulls. Then I learned about natural armour and switched over. Have been on that for a year- ... dose. So about a month ago, I switched to part armour and part synthetic. I went hyper but didn't even ... point with the combination. I think just a little armour like 1/4 grain is all I need with about 100mcg of...
    ... diagnosed with hyper? and how come they put you on armour for hyper? isn't that for us hypos? why can't...
    ... within a day. I've never tried synthetic t3, just armour . One grain of armour is 60mcg so even 15mcg-- the ... If I can't get comfortable on this little shot of armour and 100mcg of synthetic t4 I might take him up on...
    ... is how different everybody is. It took 3 grains of armour daily to get me normal-- 180mcg. On most conversion ... hyper on 200mcg of synthetic t4 with a 1/4 grain of armour . And a hyper that I didn't even recognize for awhile...
    ... guess it's out of vougue here. they won't consider armour either. why did it take you so long to get to normal...
    ... you I up my t4 now for a day or two. With all the armour (t3) and synthetic t4 I want there's no way I wouldn ... 200 lbs so 100mcg of synthetic and a 60 mcg tab of armour would be a one or two day shock treatment then I'd...
    ... you the benefit of my last 9 months--I've been on armour -- the natural pig thyroid that has both t3 and t4 ... think. I heard someone describing their symptoms and armour and I bought some that night-- on the internet from ... track over just the slightest variations in amounts of armour . I had to to know the difference between thyroid ... as I was pushing him to, for me to take a combo of armour and synthetic. And wow, first night I didn't take ... armour but rather t4 it was beautiful. I felt a peace, a ... Now, I'm trying to find the good balance of armour and t4. So I'm struggling again. I feel weird/off...
    ... exactly what i mean. do you think i should lobby for armour ? you say give the t4 a shot for a while, but how ... long is that? i've already suggested armour , but the endo doesn't want to prescribe it. of course...
    ... fficulties I was having maintaining a good dosage amount of armour . I was constantly flipping between 3 grains a day ... pushing that synthetic stuff and I switched out an armour grain for .50mcg of synthetic t4. It felt very nice ... daily does of 150mcg of synthetic t4 and just a little armour . It took about 2 weeks for me to figure out what ... for the perfect combination continues. I'm back on Armour and am going to take just a bit of synthetic t4. And ... I swear, since I went back to armour 2 days ago, it feels like my brain is being tickled ... etc. An experiment I won't be repeating. With armour I know within a day or two when I'm off. And if anyone ... reverse ts being important. And these Ts are present in armour but not in cytomel. Needless to say, I won't be asking ... for any synthetic t3. I'll stick with the armour . I know everybody is different. This is just my...
    ... so are you saying that keeping a higher dose of armour is better for you, as opposed to more synthetic t4 ... ? i really want to try armour . my brain fog has improved with the cytomel,as has...
    ... For me, absolutely. Armour with a little bit of synthetic t4 is what I'm zero ... -ing in on. Worst case scenario I'm doing all armour which isn't that bad. So, I know I'm darn close right...
    ... buzzing I felt in my head when I went back to straight armour . It was as if something in my brain was slowly turning...
    ... that reminds me. I had trouble taking 3 grains of armour in the morning. Made me feel awful. So I switched...

  71. Can I take phentermine 18th November 2004
    ... from the family practice dr that he also doesnt like Armour ....................................I will take my...
    ... from the family practice dr that he also doesnt like Armour ....................................I will take my ... even if the doc won't prescribe the med you want, Armour is NOT the end-all of medications. IT isnt' right ... to get you started in the right direction. The Armour Thyroid website has a doctor list, too....

  72. Joint Pain 18th November 2004
    ... her last night but i am worried about her. she is on armour thyroid. she started with 30mg. Now she is on 60mg...

  73. Bouncing around - normal? 18th November 2004
    ... currently on 100 mcg of thyroxine and 2 grains of Armour and am tearing my hair out! One minute I'm feeling...

  74. desperate for improvement 17th November 2004
    ... low. I was doing great when i first started adding Armour to my 125 mcg of thyroxine. I was feeling normal again ... hyper for few days at 125 thyroxine and 2 grains of Armour . As a result, I dropped my dose to 100 thyrox ... increase my dose to 100 thyroxine and 3 grains of Armour . I was still feeling very hypo at this dose and 112...

  75. Undermedicated? 17th November 2004
    ... .75 mcg synthroid to 30, then 45(a week later) of armour . The first week I felt so bad, I called for an increase ... that the equivalent dose of 75 synthroid is .64 of armour and 28 mcg of synthroid. While I realize this may...
    ... 30mg of Armour is equivilent to about 37 to 54mcg T4 45mg of Armour ... different so it can vary a bit, however, 1 grain (60mg) of Armour is equivilent to approx 74 to 100 mcg of T4 med. ...

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