- I'm going to go off of the Armour 30th March 2007
... wonders.
I take Nature Throid (basically same as Armour with different binders) I also take Unithroid which ... high and my T4 stays too low.
I also have tried Armour , but for me the Nature Throid works better. I take ... try taking the Synthroid and only a small amount of Armour . That way, you are getting the T3 plus the other ... T's in the Armour but you are getting the T4 your body seems to need...
... ...............If it were me, I would decrease my Armour just a little and add a little "T4 only" such as ... you won't be giving up all the other good things in Armour such as T1,T2,T0. You may have to adjust meds a couple...
... I went off Armour (3 grains) six weeks ago after a year of treatment ... . I started with 100 Synthroid and 1 grain Armour and did fine. Then at 4 weeks I went to 150 Synthroid ... and no Armour and feel fine. I have noticed I am sleeping better ... Also, I'm feeling less fluctuation with fatigue - on Armour if I couldn't take a dose on time I would run down ... whether to add in T3. Your labs look a lot like mine on Armour . It seemed like I was always flirting with hyper if ... I took enough Armour to be without symptoms. Good luck whatever you decide...
- Midwest--set me straight please 30th March 2007
... thread I got the conversion wrong on Synthroid to Armour . Please help to understand. In the "FAQ section ... " for Armour , it gives the equivalancies of 90 mcg/1 1/2 grain ... No doubt you have the right info. as I do not take Armour and don't understand it as much as you do. Please ... Synthroid and 10 Cytomel. What would that translate to an Armour dosage?
As you know I have had problems with ... Armour in the past. But since I have been slowly titrating ... started the cytomel last fall. I would like to try Armour again someday in the future, if for no other reason ... prescriptions.
Any help you can give me to understand Armour better would be appreciated.
Thanks!!!!...
... you're going wrong.
They're saying that 90 mgs of Armour is equal to
37.5 mcgs of T3 or to 150 mcgs of T4 ... from any particular dose.
Each grain (60 mg) of Armour contains 38 mcg of T4 and 9 mcg of T3. The T3 is ... has a broader range of equivalencies than the one at Armour .
Armour Dosage -------------- Approximate T4 Equivalent ... taking about the same T3 as you'd get in 1 grain of Armour , but you're taking 2.6 times more T4. If you wanted ... current dose, you'd have to combine a T4 med with the Armour ... So you'd still need 2 prescriptions, which may...
... When my doc originally switched me from Synthroid to Armour , and I had such a hard time, my dosage of synthroid ... was 112. I switched to 1 1/2 grain (90)of Armour . Based on the information I had (the "combined" dosage ... was prescribed what I thought was a "high" dose of Armour , and maybe I should have started with a lower dosage ... of Armour . I have wondered that my problems with the switch ... your explaination, the dosage amount of 1 1/2 grain Armour would have been correct for an equivalent dose of ... was most likely indeed the ratio of T4 to T3 in the Armour . Or there is always the outside chance that something ... you still with me...?
If I wanted to go back to Armour , I would need 1 grain + about 50ish mcg. of an additional...
... When my doc originally switched me from Synthroid to Armour , and I had such a hard time, my dosage of synthroid ... was 112. I switched to 1 1/2 grain (90)of Armour . ... Based on your explanation, the dosage amount ... of 1 1/2 grain Armour would have been correct for an equivalent dose of ... possible that was the reason for your difficulty with Armour . That's a large amount of T3 to give someone who ... Cytomel you now take, you'll need 1 grain (60 mgs) of Armour . Since it contains 38 mcgs of T4, you'd subtract ... That's how much T4 med you'd have to add to the 1 gr Armour to approximate what you now have. (If my math holds ... up, that is. :) )
If you want to try Armour again in the future - and the penny-pincher in me...
... I don't know if I'll go back to Armour in the future or not, mostly it depends on how I feel ... really worth the financial investment. A combo of Armour and another T4, may work better financially, but for ... symptoms and problems I am experiencing decline, perhaps Armour could be more appropriate for me. Have you heard ... the information, and a further explaination of how Armour converts to T4 meds. I never know when that knowledge...
... change, RM.
Until 2 months ago, 90 days' worth of Armour was costing me about $22, and that was only about...
... Midwest, as you can see, I'd switch to Armour in a red letter minute if I thought it was right for ... me! Three months of Armour costs you about $30, thryoid meds for me for three...
- tightening of throat 30th March 2007
... last month or so. I just had my doctor switch me to armour thyroid 4 days ago. I am hoping this will make it ... don't want to start on more meds til i see if the armour works. I usually just drink a lot of water. Half your...
- Need Opinion - Graves or Hashi's???? 29th March 2007
... FNB confirmed it. I have 4 nodules and take 3/4 gr. Armour + 12 1/2 mcg of Levoxyl. My TSH is always low normal...
- This is annoying!!! 29th March 2007
... can't take T4 at all; 50 mcgs overmedicates me. My Armour dose of 2 grains is the rough equivalent of 148-200...
... can't take T4 at all; 50 mcgs overmedicates me. My Armour dose of 2 grains is the rough equivalent of 148-200...
... can't take T4 at all; 50 mcgs overmedicates me. My Armour dose of 2 grains is the rough equivalent of 148-200...
- Antibodies & where to go from here? 28th March 2007
... low on fight. Just beat.
Oh, I was on 120mg(?) Armour till' Jan when the MD cut it back to 90. The "new...
... just the nature of the illness.
The increase in Armour should help.
Its wise to keep an eye on the free ... levels when taking Armour because of the T3 in it. Too much T3 can make you...
- new here, have hypothyroid question 28th March 2007
... folks do these kinds of things.
Even though I take Armour and am quite well on it, I think it's a mistake to ... something else.
Yes, your FT3 might go up some, but Armour has the effect for most people of lowering their FT4 ... the wisest way to do it... most especially not if Armour is the drug of choice.
Good luck to you....
... folks do these kinds of things.
Even though I take Armour and am quite well on it, I think it's a mistake to ... something else.
Yes, your FT3 might go up some, but Armour has the effect for most people of lowering their FT4 ... the wisest way to do it... most especially not if Armour is the drug of choice.
Good luck to you.
thank...
- MIDWEST1-Question? 28th March 2007
... T4 Free 1.46 (.8-1.8)
Cortisol 9
I started the Armour this morning because I want to try it. I've been ... last 5 years. This morning I cut 1 1/2 grain of the Armour in half and I just took the 2nd half a few minutes ... because I had bloodwork done. Should I just take of the Armour until I get the Levoxyl out of my system? I haven ... felt any different today taking the first dose of Armour . Do you know how long it will take to feel the effects...
- Lab Results-Help with Interpretation? 28th March 2007
... ago. Thanks to all who responded. I want to try Armour and took my first dosage this morning - (1 1/2 grain ... 175 mcg Levoxyl. Do you think the 1 1/2 grain of Armour is sufficient to start with? I'm going to have my...
... IMO, and I'm not an expert on Armour , but from what I do know your dosage is approximately ... I think this is a good starting point for you on Armour and comparable to your previous dosage of 175 levoxyl...
... is good. Your body will react differently to the Armour because of the T3 which is fast acting so you want...
... COLOR="Navy"]I read your reasons for wanting to try Armour here:[/FONT]
[FONT="Arial"][COLOR="DarkOrchid" ... how that changes after an adjustment period on the Armour .
Can anyone here estimate the FT3 given the FT3...
... [QUOTE=Red Maple;2887832]... I'm not an expert on Armour , but from what I do know your dosage is approximately ... you before, wangela, that when switching from T4 to Armour , it's better to start at a slightly lower equivalence...
... all of your input. I took my first 1 1/2 grain of Armour yesterday (1/2 in the morning, and another 1/2 at ... start with to high a dosage. The conversion chart on Armour states that 150mcg of Levoxyl coverts to 1 1/2 grain ... of Armour . I was actually taking 175mcg of Levoxyl so I'm actually ... taking a lower dosage of Armour compared with the conversion with Levoxyl. I'll wait ... levels checked again in 6-8 weeks to see what the Armour is doing. How long does it normally take to see the ... look at.
Thanks again for your support in trying Armour . I know that many people do well on a variety of...
... COLOR="Navy"]I read your reasons for wanting to try Armour here:[/FONT]
[FONT="Arial"][COLOR="DarkOrchid" ... how that changes after an adjustment period on the Armour .
Can anyone here estimate the FT3 given the FT3...
- Synthroid Not Being Converted Properly In The Body 28th March 2007
... I am in the middle of my third week on Armour . I was on 100mcg for years and never really felt good ... pains, no energy and lack of concentration. I switched Armour and I am only taking a 1/4 grain of it. This is the ... equivilant of .25mcg of Synthroid. Even on the 1/4 grain of Armour , the smallest dose they make,I am still a little jittery ... hormone in the liver. Obviously if such a small amount Armour can make me feel like a new man again, then my body ... I didn't use my common sense and took the 1 grain Armour that the doctor gave me, I can't imagine the side ... am now. But I can't blame the doctor because on the Armour converstion chart, 1 grain equals 100mcg of Synthroid...
... I too just switched from Synthroid 125mcg to Armour 60mg. This is my third day, yesterday was pretty...
... symptoms. Same thing happened to me but I was on armour , my labs kept looking great all the while I felt like...
... 2887212]I too just switched from Synthroid 125mcg to Armour 60mg. This is my third day, yesterday was pretty...
... 2887212]I too just switched from Synthroid 125mcg to Armour 60mg. This is my third day, yesterday was pretty ... before you felt 'good' after switching?
I tried Armour once before and it bothered me. My mistake was I took ... other words I took Synthroid on Monday and started Armour on Tuesday. So the Armour mixed with the Synthroid ... don't take anything for a several days or cut the Armour in half because I know how effective the T3 can be ... in Armour . I actually felt better right away because the T3...
- Synthroid vs. Armour 27th March 2007
... Thyroid replacement hormone treatments, specifically Armour . I asked my DR. to switch me, and reluctantly he ... Synthroid and because there was not an exact equivalent in Armour , he put me on 60mg, which is equivalent to Synthroid ... 100. I have been on the Armour for only 2 days, but I am feeling almost lethargic...
... there at the current dose a little longer. I tried Armour quite some time ago and found that it contained to ... soon to make you feel better. The next level up for Armour if I remember right would be the equivalent of 150 ... s probably better to start a combination med like Armour at a little lower dose, see how you do, and then raise...
... Maple,
Thanks for the great advice!
Since this Armour is so new to my system, I am not sure what to expect ... about their transition and reactions from Synthroid to Armour ?...
... 112 mcg's of synthroid and also made the switch to Armour . My doctor started me on 90 mcgs of Armour and thought ... suspect my levels are still changing. Good luck with Armour - I am very happy with the results!
Suzanne...
... also was at 112 on Synthroid, and switched to 90 on Armour . I ended up in the ER, and very, very ill. Since...
... were you I would certainly give a T4/T3 combo such as Armour a try....
... Shmily,
Thanks for your insite. I have been on Armour for a couple of days. I feel kinda queasy and lightheaded...
... Your 1 grain of Armour dose is actually closer to around 75 mcgs of T4 for ... and feeling bad than the switch itself from T4 to Armour .
My advice is to wait a week, then negotiate with...
... I agree with Midwest, but if the 1 1/2 grains of Armour makes you hyper, then drop back down to 1 1/4 for ... a week or so...then go back up to 1 1/2. I get my Armour in 1/4 gr. [tiny little pill]. I don't have to cut ... pills.
Since Armour is so cheap anyway you may want to get a prescription...
- Stay on Levoxyl or switch to Armour? 26th March 2007
... which would indicate to me that you are undertreated. Armour is mostly T3 - which could cause you some problem...
... allowing the Levoxyl to get out of my system. The T3 in Armour really made me hyper when mixed with the Levoxyl. ... thyroid meds for a little over a week. Then I took the Armour and I felt fine. One word of caution though, 1 1/2 ... grain of Armour is about equal to .175 of Levoxyl. I was on 100mcg ... . So I was put on 1 grain of Armour . That was to much. I ended up taking 1/4 grain and ... grain. So be careful. Maybe you should try cutting Armour in half and see what how you feel on it. You can always...
... REMOVED )
You hear so many good things about Armour , and how the addition of T3, T1, T2 is more like a ... think (based on lab results) I should not take the Armour ?...
- MEEP-Lab Interpretation? 26th March 2007
... lot of research, that I plan to take a risk and try Armour . My regular physician would not prescibe Armour, ... Practitioner who has told when I'm ready I can try the Armour . Right now, I'm taking 175 mcg of Levoxyl, and I ... have looked on Armour 's website and their dosage conversion is between 1...
... Thanks for responding.
When I try the Armour I will definitely take it twice a day. I went to ... she indicated that she was on the fence with trying Armour . She said she was open to me trying Armour; however ... better idea. I've read so much positive things about Armour , I just would like to see how different I feel on ... since I was 20 years old. The research I've done on Armour suggests that many people with the same symptoms that ... I listed above have been cured by switching to Armour . I'm not asking for a wonder drug, because I know ... by trying the Armour I may feel worse (for awhile) and that is a chance...
... wangela.................you said you had researched Armour so I bet you already know why you want to switch. ... Only Armour has T0, T1, and T2, along with the T3 and T4. A healthy ... that most people, somewhat around 80%, do better on Armour . So it is certainly, in my opinion, worth a try. ...
... than one way to resolve that.
If she chooses the Armour , I have no problem with that. I do want her and others ... definitely not my intention. If you want to switch to Armour and see a Nurse Practitioner, of course, that is what ... of the reasons I wonder that is not because I think Armour is inferior to the synthetics, but because more doctors...
... add a low dosage of Ctyomel. I guess my interest in Armour first started when I read an article about a research ... peer reviewed journal. I am still debating about the Armour and I will probably wait and decide when I get my...
- Who Wrote Me About Synthroid Causing Muscle Pains? 25th March 2007
... pains. It was in your post titled "I switched to Armour and feel so much better". Scan down at end of this...
... Synthroid....all went away when I was switched to Armour ....
... on straight T4 and also when I was not on enough of armour . After raising the armour it all went away. If you ... have a choice I would stay with the armour .
Deb...
- New Guy. Seeking Advice 25th March 2007
... this week and I think I'll ask what he thinks about Armour or at least see if he'll prescribe some Cytomel. I...
... There are people here who have reached wellness on Armour or similar meds. There are people around here who...
... was going to die and gave up and went back on the Armour . Did it to prove to a doc that I had to have the...
... several sides to a story... Many people do very well on Armour , many do well on Synthroid or another T4 only medication ... , or other combinations of treatment. Armour was a disaster for me, made me very ill, and ended...
... I spent a year of my life trying to get my dose of Armour just right - and it did pretty well for me. However ... the T4 allows the conversion to T3 as needed, while Armour was giving me the T3 - but with no reserves. You have...
... another 1 1/2 years before a doc finally put me on armour but did the wrong test for adrenals and kept saying...
... was going to die and gave up and went back on the Armour . Did it to prove to a doc that I had to have the addition...
- Hypo symptoms intensified by exercise? 25th March 2007
... ended up with adrenal exhaustion to boot. I'm on Armour but I frequent another forum that has several people ... adrenal exhaustion due to Synthroid and have switched to Armour .
You didn't say but what was your Free T3 lab...
- Hair Loss after thyroidectomy 24th March 2007
... I always felt better after increased but I'm on armour .
Hope its some reasurrance but I really only remember ... trying to get resolved so I am not optimize on my armour yet. The hair thing has by far been the most distressing...
- Midwest, Dea or anyone who can help please! 24th March 2007
... overmedicated at my current dosage (see below). I know that Armour has T3 & T4 - I've read/heard that it's hard to get ... an accurate dosage with Armour because of the combination. Any thoughts on this? ... Can anyone please share their experience with Armour (I know everyone is different but it would still help ... ohhh that's scary to hear!) Anyway, should I consider Armour ? True that body becomes immune after a while? How...
... should not assume that everything you've read about Armour will hold true for you. Not the bad stuff, neither ... good stuff. You are you. The only way to know if Armour will work or not for you is to give it a try.
Maybe ... worrisome symptoms, I refused to "wait". I went to an Armour -prescriber who prescribed a miniscule dose at first ... story.
There's not much valid reason to fear that Armour will do to you what Cytomel did. It might, but there ... parallel ways, I would not have been able to take Armour , because I couldn't take Synthroid. Obviously, I ... was right to give Armour a chance.
IMO, if the 25 mcgs/week reduction doesn ... 't get you feeling tip-top, just give the Armour a fair try. Your FT3 could stand to come up a few ... notches anyway, so Armour 's T3 might be just the ticket.
Also IMO, you should...
... thanks for sharing your personal success story about Armour ...it's encouraging to hear about that and I'm glad...
- Help Me !!!!!!! 24th March 2007
... This combination can be had by either something like Armour or Thyrolar, or by taking one of those in addition ... Synthroid, etc.)
1 and 3/4 grains natural thyroid med ( Armour , Thyrolar, etc.)
Combination of the two, such as ... 75 mcg T4 med plus 3/4 grain Armour . (This combination would be my suggestion)
Again...
- "Normal" TSH Levels? 23rd March 2007
... affect how you feel. I have heard of some who are on Armour that take a bit more during this time to compensate...
... tend to be more willing to test both frees and give Armour whereas many endo's won't prescribe Armour.
I see ... a DO, though he doesn't like Armour he will prescribe it. Unfortunately many drs will ... better on another brand. Sad.
I don't actually take Armour , I take Nature Throid. Though basically the same ... as Armour it has different binders and fillers and I do better ... on it than I do on Armour and my dr has no problem prescribing it....
... s open-minded about treatment AND is listed on the Armour Thyroid and top thyroid docs websites.
My PCP...
... s open-minded about treatment AND is listed on the Armour Thyroid and top thyroid docs websites.
Yeah! Thats...
- Groiter 22nd March 2007
... I have a multinodular goiter....... I was put on Armour thyroid 3 years ago due to symtoms and normal thyroid ... treating my symptoms and multinodular goiter with Armour ........I am still lower end on my labs.. Not all Doctors...
- "Holistic" MD wants to treat 22nd March 2007
... remedy for my Hashimoto's; instead he went straight to Armour . I don't know his feelings on this for sure, but...
- Level results in......what does it mean???? 22nd March 2007
... has been diagnosed with hypothyroidism and is taking Armour Thryoid, I am trying to get my doctor to see my side...
- Lab/med adjustment mavens, please help! Symptoms are back... 22nd March 2007
... greatly benefit from some added T3 or switching to armour .
Good luck
Deb...
... greatly benefit from some added T3 or switching to armour .
Good luck
Deb
Hi Deb. Yes, I have been wondering ... I know a lot of people are really helped by the T3 armour or cytomel....
... raise ???? and maybe i would like to try armour sometime???let us know how you are doing love...
... raise ???? and maybe i would like to try armour sometime???let us know how you are doing love...
- Dr. near Acworth/Marietta, GA who prescribes Armour??? 20th March 2007
... t.
P.S. That is where my son lives, and he takes Armour . I forgot to say I take it as well, and I MAY even...
... just did a search for doctors in GA that prescribe Armour and a site pulled up that lists doctors that do. ...
- repro endo and armour replacement 20th March 2007
... If you feel well on Armour , that's reason enough for staying on it. Synthroid ... me hyper in the smallest therapeutic dose. I take Armour too. Have been for over three years without any problems ... has read it. :) You should fight tooth and nail if Armour is the drug that works for you. If the MD still refuses...
... was the cause. It sure was. I got some Westhroid ( Armour ) from a friend and i feel so much better on it. I ... tried Armour a year ago and it made me very aggitated. But my mistake ... system. I took no thyroid meds for a week before I
Armour and what a world of difference in the way I feel so...
- Need help on TSI antibodies test 19th March 2007
... .........Thanks for your reply. I am taking 45mcg Armour (3/4 gr.) + 25 mcg Levoxyl and have been on same amt...
... .........Thanks for your reply. I am taking 45mcg Armour (3/4 gr.) + 25 mcg Levoxyl and have been on same amt...
- I Switched To Armour And Feeling Much Better 19th March 2007
... your doctor give you any flack about switching to Armour ?
I think I may need to do that as well. I was...
... Anyone have any thoughts on why such a small dose of Armour seems to be doing the trick?
This is only my personal ... and you're adding the T3 which your body is craving ( armour is T4 and T4). it does sound like your body might ... find a Dr. who's willing to work with you regarding armour if your Dr blows off your questions. Goin up in 15mg ... to go.
I switched from 8 years of synthroid to Armour and I also feel a lot better and my Mom's Dr. switched ... was over 20 years on Synthroid and has now been on Armour over a year. We both have Hashi's which probably...
... may indicate a level where you MAY wind up on the Armour . That's just a guess from experience....
... with all the hypo symptoms.
Now I am on 3/4 grains Armour and 25mcg Levoxyl. My labs are still low normal and ... several times to increase just 1/2 of a 1/4 grain Armour at a time but after a few days I get hyper symptoms ... can prescribe me a compounded liquid drop made from Armour so I can increase slowly in very small amounts. I ...
I still have symptoms (Not side effects) with Armour because I am not taking enough, but not the severe ... on Synthroid. I am hoping to be able to increase Armour eventually. It just makes sense that your body just ... needs the T0, T1, and T2 that is only found in Armour . Most all of the well known doctors and researchers...
... mcg Synthroid (Levoxyl, etc.) is equivalent to 2 gr. Armour . So this chart has always been suspect to me, though ... I would assume our friends at Armour are knowledgeable enough to know the factors.
However ... , which ever dose of Armour you and your Doctor choose, please be aware that the ... just switch overnight from 100 mcg Synthroid to 1 gr. Armour . If you do, you will quickly spike your blood levels ... doubt that, should you continue to take only ¼ gr. Armour , you will be grossly under medicated in a short period ... Synthroid at the same time as gradually increasing the Armour .
I always graph mine out, and make any dose changes...
... QUOTE=Divermon;2868046]However, which ever dose of Armour you and your Doctor choose, please be aware that the ... just switch overnight from 100 mcg Synthroid to 1 gr. Armour . If you do, you will quickly spike your blood levels ... that, should you continue to take only ¼ gr. Armour , you will be grossly under medicated in a short period ... Synthroid at the same time as gradually increasing the Armour .
You said it much better than I did :) But this ... I were taken off Synthroid totally when we started Armour . It worked out OK...
... to be doing much for me. My doctor didn't give me Armour . A friend of mine takes it and I made an appointment ... effects until recently. But whoever mentioned that Armour makes the most sense it has all the t's in it is absolutely ... Synthroid. Just like SHMILY's case. Doing good on Armour and the new doctor changes the meds to Synthroid....
... I'm going on my second week now on Armour and so far I feel good. If I continue to feel good ... on Armour , I am going to be furious and my doctors for insisting...
... for this small, if any, savings.
I picked up my Armour from the pharmacy the other day, and they had substituted ... as brain fog. This supports getting your T3 from Armour or Thyrolar, rather than Cytomel, or by relying on ... this, is supposed to be the inability to raise your Armour dose enough to relieve hypothyroid symptoms, because ... RSTARRE, assuming you have been taking ¼ gr. Armour for 2 weeks, if I graph out your meds and their half ... theory, you and your Doctor should be increasing the Armour at this point and working your way up to the dose...
... before on Synthroid. So maybe with all the T's in Armour , I really needed a lot less to feel normal. And that...
... get discouraged, you probably just need to raise the Armour dose, not go back to Synthroid.
As you do increase ... other thing to watch for, is that for some people, Armour seems to have too much T3 in it. This makes sense...
... Synthroid. Anyway he finally wrote me a script for Armour . What is amazing is that these doctors don't seem ... bullcrapped into believing how much better it is to Armour , Cytomel or Thyrlor. (Synthetic Armour). I can't say ... on other sites. It just amazes me that 1/4 grain of Armour which is equivalant to .25 mcg of Synthroid is making...
... experiencing "hyper" (confirmed by labs) at on 2 grains of Armour , yet hypo at a dose just 15 mg less than that (105 ... Synthroid and Levoxyl and with my lack of success on Armour , my endo has now prescribed a low dose of Cytomel ... go for me. Your thoughts are appreciated and I hope Armour is the one for you....
... experiencing "hyper" (confirmed by labs) at on 2 grains of Armour , yet hypo at a dose just 15 mg less than that (105 ... Synthroid and Levoxyl and with my lack of success on Armour , my endo has now prescribed a low dose of Cytomel ... go for me. Your thoughts are appreciated and I hope Armour is the one for you....
... WOW JENNY. 2 GRAINS OF ARMOUR ARE EQUAL TO 200MCG OF SYNTHROID AND 50 OF CYTOMEL ... 100mcg of Synthoid so I should be taking 1 grain of Armour . but I'm not. I am taking only a 1/4 grain which is ... ago and I feel so much better. So maybe that is why Armour didn't work for you. I am a firm believer that some ... to explain why I feel well on such a small dose of Armour . As far as the Cytomel, I was on 5 and then went up ... pills. Instant energy. But in reading the info on Armour , since it contains all the T's 1,2,3 & 4, I figured ... two weeks though. Also I believe my first attempt at Armour failed because I still had Synthroid in my system ... thyroid meds for about 9 or 10 days and then started Armour . That worked for me. Is the Cytomel working for you ... experiencing "hyper" (confirmed by labs) at on 2 grains of Armour , yet hypo at a dose just 15 mg less than that (105 ... Synthroid and Levoxyl and with my lack of success on Armour , my endo has now prescribed a low dose of Cytomel ... go for me. Your thoughts are appreciated and I hope Armour is the one for you....
... I went immediately off the Armour , just this past Wed, and went onto Cytomel yesterday ... better (could be due to the fact that I still have Armour in me, yet my labs taken last week showed my T3 was ... Previously, this past year, I went from Levoxyl to Armour (started at 60 mcgs) with several boosts throughout ... past month which is odd considering I had been on Armour for a year. It was as if the medication wasn't aleviating ... be. I do have to say though that I felt better on Armour for awhile than I ever did on Synthroid or Levoxyl...
... to need to call my doctor. I have been researching Armour Thyroid and want to be knowledgeable before I ask ... she is one who would prescribe it or not. Is the Armour Thyroid easier to tolerate? I am always sensitive ... symptoms. Let me know what your experiences with Armour are....
- Effects of decrease in levothyroxine dosage? 19th March 2007
... have no answers to my situation. So I switched to Armour ....
- very ill - help 18th March 2007
... have a similar situation to you even though I am on Armour not Levoxyl/Cytomel. Last month I had the anxiety...
... about 3 months. (I was on synthetic, then I tried armour for a while and it just didn't work). I just went...
- Doc's in WI? 18th March 2007
... Missouri.
You could check the physician finder at the Armour Thyroid site. Armour prescribers are usually very...
... pleased to find him. At the time he wasn't on the armour site, and I don't know if he is yet, but he does prescribe...
- Hello. New to the board, needing to talk out/about results from FNA... 18th March 2007
... weeks with ultrasound, doing labs also and has my on Armour ......he reminded me thyroid cancer is slow growing...
- Hypothyroidism>Hyperthyroidism 16th March 2007
... MD wouldn't do. When I saw him, he started me on Armour thyroid at a very cautious dose starting dose. To ... though... the majority of MDs are vehemently opposed to Armour or to any thyroid drug containing T3. They have been ... any endo.
I don't want to guarantee to you that Armour per se is what your son needs. It may not work for...
- What Are Synthroid's Side Effects? 16th March 2007
... take a very small amount of Levoxyl along with my Armour but at least I know I am getting T0, T1, T2, T3, and...
... Why did he switch meds on you? Do you feel better on Armour than Thyrlor?...
- Bumpy ride to a lower dose? 15th March 2007
... study of my lab results), he is lowering my dose of Armour from 90mg (1.5 grains) to 60mg (1 grain). I am experiencing...
... range. But, its very likely high since you are on Armour . Did he check your FT4? My problem with just Armour...
- Do you get puffy face during some parts of the day? 15th March 2007
... of the day (esp. in the mornings after I've taken Armour ) I'm not that puffy, whereas other parts I see some ... just think it seems weird. I thought a few weeks on Armour I would stop seeing it and it would be more consistent...
... of the day (esp. in the mornings after I've taken Armour ) I'm not that puffy, whereas other parts I see some ... just think it seems weird. I thought a few weeks on Armour I would stop seeing it and it would be more consistent...
... that people take pics of me right after I take my Armour .
Also, I've found that drink lots of water with...
... sure if it's the distilled water or the fact that Armour is starting to sink in or exercising more.
I'll...
- Labs Back - Is this Hashi's? 15th March 2007
... tested, and if it is low I would want to start on Armour Thyroid or Thyrolar. I just think you will feel so...
- Anyone better on Synthroid than Armour? 12th March 2007
... better with a combination of T4 and T3 therapy such as Armour , and they should have that readily available to them ... synthroid alone for several years. I switched to Armour and it did not work for me. I am now on a combination ... Have you had blood tests since you started taking Armour ? You could also just need some adjustment in the ... dosage of Armour . You do not mention how long you have been on Armour ... doing fine on synthroid why did you make the switch to Armour ? Did you have lingering symptoms of hypothyroidism...
... someone out there has felt the same as me on both Armour and T4 only.
I was able to get on Armour for over...
... loss could be a problem so I decided to change to Armour .
I've been on Armour for about 7 weeks. Here's ... I took Synthroid for two weeks and then changed to Armour for the next four weeks and felt horrible on it (flu ... I was feeling so bad and hypo that I got back on Armour 30 mgs a day.
After 6th week of Armour:
TSH: 1 ... Told me I can still take my meds but won't up my Armour anymore b/c he felt I didn't need it. I added 30 ... me. Or does it take a long time to feel better on Armour ?...
... It doesn't take long to feel better on Armour , but my dear... you need more of it!!! Your FT4 and ... symptoms will be eliminated.
Most people can tell their Armour is working if their TSH becomes low-normal or even ... was adequate.
If that doctor won't increase your Armour , you should find a better doctor. That one is the...
... high. We switched to me to an equivalent dosage of Armour . I became very jittery, shaking uncontrollably, high ... cytomel. If I am not mistaken, the ratio of T4/T3 in Armour is 100/25; at my current dosage I would be at 100 ... many people out there who are successful on either Armour , straight T4 as in Synthroid, or other form of combination ... well and need supplemental medication in the form of Armour or Cytomel. It is possible that you are one of those ... will take a little longer at your current dosage of Armour for you to get to where you are feeling better. Often ... It is getting better though, and slowly subsiding. Armour may just be the right medication for you; your dosage...
... midwest1;2855696]It doesn't take long to feel better on Armour , but my dear... you need more of it!!! Your FT4 and ... symptoms will be eliminated.
Most people can tell their Armour is working if their TSH becomes low-normal or even ... was adequate.
If that doctor won't increase your Armour , you should find a better doctor. That one is the ... FT4 test, it looks like it got lower! I heard that Armour suppresses the FT4 and TSH. Should I have the doc...
... better truth. Sorry you weren't doing the best on Armour and I've heard too many people cannot withstand the ... to SELF MEDICATE. I am currently on my 7th week of Armour . I only increased my meds last week because when ... I was on Synthroid 50mg I was fine. Armour 30 mg does not convert directly to Synthroid 50 mg ... and will be seeing a really good GP (he prescribes Armour and also prescribes customized compound thyroid rx...
... [QUOTE=librarygirl2;2855845]I heard that Armour suppresses the FT4 and TSH. Should I have the doc ... range for this?
Yes, for a reason unknown to me, Armour is known to frequently cause the ratio of FT4 to FT3 ... addition of a small amount of T4 medication to their Armour dose.
I would not want the MD focusing solely...
... I have switched to Westhroid ( Armour ) and so far so good. I am actually taking less of ... Synthroid/Cytmel combo. I feel the best so far on Armour . I agree that the 4 to 1 ratio of T4/T3 may be a little...
... about puffy face symptoms?
I've only been on Armour for 2 months but I just can't stand being the marshmallow ... wondering if Synthroid will help but I'll stick with Armour for a little longer. I'm still tired but I think...
... Thanks!
I retained fluid on both synthroid and armour when I wasn't getting enough meds. I don't think it...
... Kharma;2874970]I retained fluid on both synthroid and armour when I wasn't getting enough meds. I don't think it...
... cause the same symptoms. So far I feel a lot better on Armour . If I were you, do what I did. Stop taking the medication ... puffiness goes away. That is the only way you will know if Armour is causing it....
- Cytomel Overdose 12th March 2007
... cardio checked out fine after I had these problems on armour - but..... :)
I like your idea re: re-setting...
- what causes tight-throat/lump-in-throat sensation? 11th March 2007
... ...I am having a great week. Other than taking my Armour I almost forgot I had problems for a week.
Oleander...
- any other natural options that are NOT from pig? 10th March 2007
... For religious reasons I cant take Armour or any other porcine derived meds (unless it's a matter...
... Armour thyroid is made from dessicated porcine thyroid glands...
... That's interesting, I have only heard of Armour and Synthyroid?? My endo Dr. basically prescribes ... Synthyroid and he did say that Armour is produced from the pig????...
... has both T3 and T4. It would be my 2nd choice after Armour ....
... have to have we dont get the choicr of armour ??????? love from pursiexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:)...
- Looking for a docotr in NJ 10th March 2007
... looking for a doctor in Northern NJ who prescribes Armour , and listens to you..
Thanks,
JoAnn...
- Will taking Synthroid same day of labs effect the results? 9th March 2007
... Total T3, T3 Uptake or TSH.
If you are taking Armour (or any combination of T3 and T4) within 8 hours before...
- Renin??? 9th March 2007
... I'm seeing a new doc now that wants to try me on Armour (has just run some more blood tests and want to get...
... hypo. I was assuming you were hyper.
As to the armour , I would think that as long as it was regulated properly...
... Yep, I am hypo. I was hoping Armour would help stabilize my BP, in addition to the other...
- Endo"s And Cytomel 8th March 2007
... me, but it is will doctor's supervision. I tried Armour and found the ratio of T4/T3 to be too much for me...
... next visit. My point is doctors do write scripts for Armour and the synthetic version of the drug. So why do some...
... doctor until I find one that will give patient Thylor, Armour or Cytomel. There are doctors out there giving it ... feeling tired and aching all the time. The lower does of Armour have 12 mcg of T3. The most come dose given to patients...
... keep looking for a cooperative doctor. Check the Armour website's physician finder. Those doctors on that...
- synthorid vs levothyroxine question 8th March 2007
... 43pg/ml). From 4-8pm I am like a zombie! NO cytomel, armour or thyrolar available.
I am on Eltroxin 100mcq 4...
... 43pg/ml). From 4-8pm I am like a zombie! NO cytomel, armour or thyrolar available.
I am on Eltroxin 100mcq 4...
- Armour and Depression 7th March 2007
... I tried Armour a while ago, (over a year now) also at 90 mcg. I ... to these then you are receiving too much T3 in the Armour and not enough T4, and may be causing an imbalance ... may want to talk to your doctor about lowering you Armour dosage for the T3, and adding additional T4 in the ... cytomel. That makes it a ratio of 100/10, I think, Armour (if I am not mistaken) is 100/25. Your FT3 is just...
... adrenals checked and see if they need support so your armour can get into your tissues to resolve symptoms. Mine ... and thats why I had so much trouble tolerating the armour and little resolution of symptoms.
It takes a tremendous...
... having troubles....... I have never had problems on Armour . I am on 150 mg daily...... My pulse plods along at...
- Anyone in Houston, TX 7th March 2007
... searching for a physician. You may also want to try the Armour thyroid site which will have a list of docs who prescribe ... Armour , perhaps more open-minded physicians. I have a daughter...
- Midwest...Anyone else...please help 6th March 2007
... test my T3 and T4 and maybe give me a slight dose of Armour to add to my Synthroid. I'm nervous about cardiac...
... once we get blood back she would like to switch me to Armour . I asked about slowing adding Armour to my Synthroid ... as I've heard there can be too much T3 in the Armour for most people and that the best course is to do ... more later. Now I'm not sure what to do. I've heard Armour also has T1 and T2 and that it has more benefits over ... would you do in regards to thyroid meds. Go straight Armour or add Cytomel to my Synthroid? Or does it depend...
... once we get blood back she would like to switch me to Armour . I asked about slowing adding Armour to my Synthroid ... as I've heard there can be too much T3 in the Armour for most people and that the best course is to do ... more later. Now I'm not sure what to do. I've heard Armour also has T1 and T2 and that it has more benefits over ... Cytomel along with my T4 Unithroid as well as taking Armour /Nature Throid.
Cytomel by the way is a synthetic ... much. I found that adding Nature Throid (same as Armour , different fillers) to my Unithroid in a small amount ... (1/2 grain) helped me the most. I also tried the Armour with just a little added Unithroid, but for some reason ... I tolerate the Nature Throid better than the Armour , maybe its one of the fillers, who knows. And, more ... experience. I would try to talk them into adding the Armour in small amounts while dropping the Synthroid to see...
... treatments as natural as possible, they focus mostly on Armour . (I suppose that if someone didn't do well on it ... taking it and moved on to an MD I knew to approve of Armour .
I had absolutely no adverse reaction to Armour...
... Perhaps I will be trusting and go ahead with just the Armour . I gotta say today though I am feeling so good I...
- Intolerance to Meds 6th March 2007
... 2005, symptoms going back to 2003. Have tried T4, Armour and T3 but have a lot of trouble tolerating even a ... off all meds for 4 weeks to run the previously used Armour out of my system. I feel Ok so far but temps are rising...
... Jaynie2;2839811] [COLOR="DarkOrchid"]Have tried T4, Armour and T3 but have a lot of trouble tolerating even a...
... and then 40mg hydrocortisone and up to 3 grains of Armour and again with each dose increase I got worse. I spent...
... taking it, whether it be 25mg thyroxine, half grain Armour or 5mg T3, my temps rise first then I start to sweat...
- Other couch potatoes out there? 5th March 2007
... Hi Carisa! Yes - I'm on 90mg of Armour (I've been on it for a year) after trying Synthroid...
- Can I take Saw Palmetto for my hair? 5th March 2007
... I take this maybe during the evenings while taking Armour in the morning?
Thanks....
- Feedback needed please! 4th March 2007
... crashing. As you know my doctor recently increased my Armour by 30 mg and decreased my Cytomel to .5 mcg. My recent ... before.
Over the last week, I have taken 15 mg of Armour increase daily and stopped the Cytomel. As you know ... happened again.
Today, I took the full 30 mg extra of Armour . I feel like I am crashing because I am an exhausted ... so low? I know I just started the higher dose of Armour but do you think it is enough for me to feel some...
... Levoxyl added in.
I take a combo of Levoxyl and Armour because my T4 will crash if I'm only on the armour...
- Armour vs Synthroid 4th March 2007
... working well for you, it sure couldn't hurt to give Armour a try. It works well for millions of people and has ... that don't it's worth a shot to try the ones like Armour ....
... by the end of the day I am grouchy (I even split my Armour dose to twice daily). I have only been on Armour...
... how your feel.
I switched from just synthroid to armour a long time ago, and was not successful with the change ... on the cytomel. It would have been simplified if armour would have worked.
There are many others however ... that Armour is just the thing for them to feel great. It may...
... generaly hated life. who wouldn't. I switched to armour and within two weeks felt like a new person. I guess...
- Hypo symptoms at 1 dose - Hyper at another 3rd March 2007
... of this board, I've realized that 2 grains daily of Armour is a large dose...no wonder I'm feeling lousy! I know...
... do better on a synthroid/cytomel combination than Armour . I take 100 mcg of synthroid and 10 mcg cytomel. ... Perhaps it is the ratio of T4 to T3 in the Armour that is causing you not to be able to get to just...
... I think it is better to take the Armour (maybe in a smaller amt) and add a T4 such as Levoxyl...
... Armour makes a 1/4 grain tablet. Adding that to a 1.5 grain...
- When Armour builds up - do I back off? 1st March 2007
... couple of days. You will have enough of the T4 in Armour to last missing a few days. When I was on synthroid...
- Need but can't tolerate thyroid meds 1st March 2007
... significant hair loss.
All of these improve when I take Armour or Cytomel, but I got off of the meds 2 years ago...
... prescribed the Synthroid, she put me on a trial of Armour thyroid, but even half of a 15mg tablet made me very ... for almost two years, except for the brief trial of Armour and Synthroid last spring, I have returned to gaining...
- What has helped you? 1st March 2007
... difference when I was just beginning treatment with Armour
This board has been great - just to know I'm not...
- Armour to Naturethroid 1st March 2007
... your free T3/4 from the levels they were while on Armour ....
- Which T4 only drug to choose? 1st March 2007
... switch me back to a T4 only drug. I am currently on Armour , but my labs just seem to be jumping everywhere. ...
- Pituitary or Thyroid problem? 1st March 2007
... suppressed TSH meant nothing then, since Cytomel (and Armour ) are known to do that. That's why it's imperative...
- Does Levothyrox cause hair loss? Please HELP!!! 1st March 2007
... good and have you head of a drug called armour ?????? the docs are willing to let me try ... have severe hypo symptoms are better on armour its a natural remedie but ritch ...
- Midwest1, can you help with this Please? 28th February 2007
... I had to be careful with my dosage of Armour (also T3 like Cytomel) When my female hormones were ... supplementing, I had to drastically cut my dosage of Armour . Has your doctor tested your estrogen, progesterone...
- Internist or Endocrinologist? 28th February 2007
... people here have found open-minded doctors on the Armour web site. Even if you are not taking Armour, or don...
- Why Are Doctors So Reluctant To Give Cytomel 28th February 2007
... made me feel good. The aches were not as bad. I tried Armour and T3/T4 combo and that puts me in a terrible mood...
- Have you heard of this? 28th February 2007
... as 200. Although I have heard some on 3 grains of Armour which would be about 300 but that isn't too common...
... getting from a dose.
I am currently on 4 grains of armour and holding for a few weeks as well as taking HC for...
... QUOTE=Deb123;2826781] II am currently on 4 grains of armour and holding for a few weeks as well as taking HC for...
... there is no t3 and i would think that armour is stronger so wouldnt someone without a ... benefit from this potent drug and has armour just got a t4 compound or do you still...
- Has Anyone Ever Had A TPO Thyroid Antibody Test? 27th February 2007
... light on my multinodular goiter. I am hypo and on Armour and developed these nodules in the last year....
...
- Goitrogen feeling? 27th February 2007
... guess you could say. I'm hypo by the way, on 90mg of Armour . Just curious if goitrogens could have this effect...
... everyone could be different..I am hypo but maintained on Armour 2 1/2 Grains. I was eating broc and cauli all the...
- Midwest, Erinbeth, got my lab numbers 26th February 2007
... mcg. 123
switched to 1 1/2 grain Armour --not a positive response to Armour
then ... weight loss and her possible hyper reaction to T3 on Armour last year. I recommend that she STAY AS IS for now...
- Has anyone switched from Armour to Synthroid? Insomnia... 26th February 2007
... Hi - I can't say anything about Armour as I've never used it. I've been on synthroid for...
... Boata, I was not successful with Armour for a variety of reasons. (long story, far to long ... "custom" dosage than with a combination drug like Armour . If you do go the synthroid route, you for sure need ... amount of T3 since your body is so used to it in the Armour . IMO just switching to a T4 only hormone will not ... as well as taking some of both. The T4/T3 ratio in Armour I think is 100/25. To me, and it's just my opinion ... Of course since you have been taking 3 grains of Armour your dosage of synthroid/cytomel will be higher than...
- Cytomel 2 x Day? 26th February 2007
... of cytomel. There are combination medications like Armour or Thyrolar that contain both T4 and T3. Some people...
... of cytomel. There are combination medications like Armour or Thyrolar that contain both T4 and T3. Some people...
- Any thoughts on natural remedies? 25th February 2007
... boards/showthread.php?t=474720[/url]
I do also take Armour , just so you know I am on thyroid meds, so it does...
- Does anyone get hypoglycemic symptoms and headaches?? 25th February 2007
... Are you taking a T4 med, or something with T3 like Armour or Cytomel. I am unable to tolerate T3 meds in pure...
- Its been awhile....... 24th February 2007
... labs and Dr Visit every 2 months and suppressed with Armour ......for my multinodular goiter. which keeps producing...
- My Lab results....what do ya'll think? 24th February 2007
... like it is? Are these levels good? I was on 90 mg of Armour when my TSH was 6.01 (TSH actually increased when ... when my TSH was high, so it couldn't be from too much Armour right? I'm just so confused:) .....my B12 was also...
... Lucida Console"][COLOR="Navy"]Since you are taking Armour and the T3 in Armour suppresses TSH, I should think...
... flying and well over active i dont know why armour supresses the t3 all i know is i felt like...
