- Armour no longer available??? 8th January 2008
... I've never had any trouble getting an Armour prescription filled.
I did have a hard time finding...
... terms that Forest will and is continuing to produce Armour . However some of their competition is discontinuing...
... service agent from Forest Pharm. who assured me that Armour is most certainly NOT being discontinued. Whew. Never ... did I imagine that obtaining Armour would be such an ordeal. I (wrongly) assumed that ... Oleander, is what you got at Walmart actual brand name Armour ? I've found I have to double check now. CVS gave me ... generic after I specifically asked for Armour . I returned it only to be told they can no longer...
... I had no problem getting Armour at Walgreen's before I started mail ordering through...
- Synthroid question 8th January 2008
... friend is on Synthroid and she wants to switch to Armour .
How many days does it take for the Synthroid to...
... taper off the Synthroid as she slowly increases the Armour dose.
Last year when I switched from Synthrod ... turkey. I could only tolerate a very small dose of Armour at first, so the net gain was to have a much lower...
... There is no problem mixing Armour & Synthroid.
What I meant to get across is this ... that she taper off the Synthorid as she increases the Armour dose.
I felt so bad because the Synthoid slowly ... left my system, but the Armour dose I could tolerate (at first) was so low that I ... only getting a very little thyroid dose (from the Armour , as the synthroid left my system).
I don't have...
- New Labs Again With New Questions???? Still Looks Like...???? 8th January 2008
... Well I am on the 60grains of Armour for about 2 months now and still feel bad most days...
... bit hypo! You must mean that you are on 60 mgs of Armour .
You need to slowly increase your Armour dose. ... Most people report feeling good on about 3 grains or Armour a day. (60 mg = 1 grain).
Also, if you take the ... Armour before they draw you blood, that will skew the reslut ... on days that you have blood drawn, don't take the Armour until aftet they draw the blood.
Also, when you ... are on an adequate dose of Armour , the TSH is usually supressed way down, maybe even ... of thyroid hormones, especially for those of us on Armour ).
Are you taking the Armour sub-lingually (under ... the tongue.
Also, it is a good idea to split the Armour dose into doses (becuase the T3 is short lived and ... total T3) and have the blood drawn before you take the Armour that day.
I hope this helps and you start feeling...
... adjustments. I just HOPE he won't want to give up on the Armour all together. Because when he gave me script for Armour ... of the levo as I was at 112mcgs of levo before the armour . He said hold on to that script for levo and if armour ... that my head WAS clearer when I initally started the armour now it is back to being foggy!! LOL...
... Don't give you on the Armour !
In retrospect I think it would have been better ... decreased my Synthroid dose as I slowly increased my Armour dose (last year, when I switched to Armour). Because ... similar reaction that you had and had to decrease the Armour and slowly increase it again. But when that happens ... too low at first.
Also, the beauty of taking the Armour sub-lingually is that.....you don't have to worry...
... No I won't give up on the Armour . I just hope my endo is well enough informed and...
- Ft4 & Tsh 8th January 2008
... impressive and i expected as much. You need to check the Armour physician finder database. You can search via your...
- Why is it such a struggle? 8th January 2008
... good local internal med MD that was listed in the Armour physcian finder database. She treated me the day ... and be ready to fight. Also look for an MD on the Armour thyroid physician finder list near you. If they prescribe ... Armour .. well they tend to be a bit more forward thinking...
- trying to get a diagnosis 8th January 2008
... hypoT. I know that there is a slew of MDs on the Armour physician finder database for Boston, they will be...
- Thyroid meds before blood test or not? 7th January 2008
... Total T3, T3 Uptake or TSH.
If you are taking Armour (or any combination of T3 and T4) within 8 hours before ... dose based on the false elevations.
I take my Armour after the blood draw, even though my own MD wouldn...
- Questions about foods and supplements 7th January 2008
... 99% absorption rate for synthroid and cytomel and armour with in an hour. So eating one hour after you have...
- low free t3 help what should I do? 7th January 2008
... and a low
free t3 2.3 (2.5-3.9) should I get on armour
tsh is 1.14 (.34-5.6)
free t4 0.9 (.6-1.6)
symtoms...
... noted that Cytomel can be hard to tolerate and thus Armour may be the thing for you. But if you like your current...
... T3 supplementation in whatever medication you try. Armour would be a good choice for you to start with and if ... tolerate it to go to Synthroid and Cytomel.
Look up the Armour physician finder and see if there is a physician near ... your willing, authorized, and certified to prescribe Armour near you. I had to go through five MDs before learning...
... treat I was in her office last week, I asled her for armour because of the positive things I read. She looked...
... have really helped. I just got my perscription for armour thyroid 30 mg. one a day. I hope this helps me feel...
- Wondering what steps to take now 4th January 2008
... and he said that he would be willing to let me try Armour , so maybe I should try that. I am sooo tired of running...
- thyroid/what is normal? 4th January 2008
... practice after tossing three others aside by using the armour thyroid physician finder suggested by Midwest I believe...
- HYPO with severe CFS 4th January 2008
... Naturethroid/Westthroid that was orginally taking Armour . I currently take 5 grains dailey of Armour and I ... products are considerably cheaper. My Doctor is stuck on Armour , which is not a bad thing but my insurance will not ... pay for the Armour but they will pay for Westhroid. Any and all feedback...
- Question re: Cytomel with Synthroid/Armour 3rd January 2008
... My doctor switched me from 120 mg Armour to 25 mg Cytomel and 75 mg Synthroid. What is the ... ratio of T3 to T4 in Armour ? I think that what I'm taking now packs a way stronger ... T3 punch...and I don't think I like it. Armour was so gentle. Even though my total dose was the ... different way than the natural T3, I'd rather go back to Armour .
Thanks for any input!
Glynis...
... Two grains of Armour (120 mgs) contains 76 mcgs of T4 and 18 mcgs of T3 ... roof. Yet I managed to slowly work up to 2 grains of Armour without once going hyper. As you said, I found it...
... to changes in dosages, etc.
I went back to my Armour today and although I'm sure the Cytomel is still a...
... as to why your doc wanted to switch you from taking Armour ? We see so many switch over to Armour but not so ... much from Armour to Synthroid. I just recently added Cytomel to my...
- Hyper to Hypo question 3rd January 2008
... You might want to use the armour physician finder and look for an IM or FP near you...
- Shmily, need info on your treatment 3rd January 2008
... before.
I found a D.O. that will treat you with Armour based on symptoms and labs, if you are interested ... appointments, it's first come-first served. If I tolerated Armour , I probably would have stuck with him. He didn't...
... atacks and high bp spikes) when I was on lower doze of Armour . Another symptom I have is not being able to stand...
... was the last of April and I was taking:
3/4 Grain Armour + 12 1/2 mcg Levoxyl. Test results were:
TSH ... very gradually increase, so I worked up to 1 grain of Armour + 12 1/2 mcg.
I had labs done the 1st of Dec with ... 2.77 - 5.27
GP told me to gradually increase my Armour to 1 1/2 grains and discontinue Levoxyl and more labs...
- Help Please with Lab Results 2nd January 2008
... haven't checked to see if you would fair better on Armour or another T4 supplement. I would expect it to be...
- armour 2nd January 2008
... available in Canada, but I don't think it goes by the Armour brand. Last time I heard, it was known just as "Thyroid...
... difference between compounded natural thyroid and Armour . Is it also made from a pig's thyroid gland too, ... and would it have the T1, T2, etc. just like Armour ? Is the T3/T4 ratio the same?...
- Need help with blood results please. 31st December 2007
... keep everyone's issues straight... Have you tried Armour or not?
I bet you do feel awful. Hope it improves...
... keep everyone's issues straight by the way. I was on Armour with another doctor but he didn't use blood tests ... this dose and apparenlty suffer. :)
1. 30 mg of Armour (contains 12.5 mcg of T3 and 50 mcg of T4)
2. quite...
... He was scaring the life out of me. :D
30 mg of Armour (contains 12.5 mcg of T3 and 50 mcg of T4)No, you ... apparently confused about this. Thirty mgs (1/2 grain) of Armour contains 19 mcgs of T4 and 4.5 mcgs of T3. The effect ... and 50 mcgs of T4 alone.
Sixty mgs (one grain) of Armour contains 38 mcgs of T4 and 9 mcgs of T3, and is roughly ... would be safe to switch straight over to 1 grain of Armour . That would be the rough equivalent of your 75 mcgs ... the battle. If for some reason she isn't open to Armour , I would suggest to stay on the 75 mcgs of Synthroid...
... afraid to continue using it.
In the past I have used Armour . That was with the doctor who overmedicated me. I ... use Synthroid, since I know it's helping, and use Armour just for its T3? Is there another T3 option? I thought...
... can indeed be supplemented with a small amount of Armour . Several people who've come and gone on the board ... that just one or the other med wasn't giving them. Armour puts a damper on T4 for some people, so in order to ... It may be possible that an MD who's well-versed in Armour dosing would be able to get your levels where they ... that other guy did. I mean, it may not have been the Armour causing your problems at all, but the way it was dispensed...
... with out a lot of fillers seems to be that mixed with Armour . This is only what I could dig up after a brief seach...
... Well I found out that I have never been on 60 mg of Armour like I thought. My last doctor started me on 90 mg ...
I plan to ask my doctor to try me on 60 mg of Armour . I have a concern though. Since it seems like the ... quit producing and my thyroid to shut down, won't Armour do the same thing? I'm afraid that the T3 in the Armour...
... you hypoT unless you are under medicated. Try the Armour and keep an eye in the FT3 and FT4. Any time you...
... I saw the doctor today and she agreed to put me on Armour . She wouldn't start me on 60 mg like I asked her to...
... I've been on the 30 mg of Armour for 2 weeks now. I'm only taking the Armour and no...
... discouraged...broken today. I've been on 60 mg of Armour for 5 weeks and feel awful. I'm titrating to find ... deal with another illness. I'm hoping the T3 from the Armour turned off my thyroid like before and my T4 is rock ... migraine every 5 weeks when I was on a high dose of Armour in the past. Is it possible that I can't tolerate...
... After being on 60 mg of Armour for 6 weeks I finally have my blood results. They ... though. I think I should add 25 mcg of Synthroid to my Armour to get my T4 up closer to my T3 and drop the TSH. ... Midwest, before I call my doctor. I could add more Armour and continue to increase my T3 or I could add more ... Synthroid. I'm a little concerned with adding more Armour and increasing my T3. I've been getting acne and much ... also got a horrible migraine, all since I started the Armour . I think it could be the T3. So should I hold my T3 ... Synthroid? How much Synthroid? Or should I increase my Armour ? Thanks for all of the support....
... right. My Aunt has to mix and match synthroid and armour . Cytomel and her body didn't get along. 1 grain ... or armour and 75 mcgs of synthroid appear to be her sweet spot ... range of normal with that dosing. I would hold on the armour .. you are just in optimal range.. Boost the T4 with ... FTs again. You may need to back off a little of the Armour if your T3 climbs too high and boost the T4 again ... going straight to 50 mcgs of synthryoid while on the Armour will spike you hyperT in the T3 range. Going slow...
... following blood results.
25 MCG of Synthroid
60 MG of Armour
TSH 0.56
FT4 1.4 (0.8-1.8 normal) 60% of range ... is getting too low, but I explained that the T3 in Armour causes it to shut off. She said she never heard of...
... Another update. I'm currently taking 60 mg of Armour and 50 mcg of Synthroid. I'm doing significantly better...
... and where are you know in the FT4 and Ft3 range.
On Armour your TSH means squat. I do like the visual image...
... blood results back and I'm above the range.
60 mg Armour
50 mcg Synthroid
FT4 1.9 (0.8-1.8)
FT3 4.5 (2 ... getting a CT to test for MS.
Should I lower my Armour dose to 45 mg to lower both the T3 and T4 or should...
... blood results back and I'm above the range.
60 mg Armour
50 mcg Synthroid
FT4 1.9 (0.8-1.8) You are at 110...
... Thanks for the feedback. I plan to reduce my Armour since it has both T3 and T4. Maybe they will both ... above 60% but below 80% range. I didn't think 15 mg of Armour would make that big of a difference one way or the...
- Energy level up - ability to sleep down 30th December 2007
... taking hypo-Thy meds for nearly 2 years. I've been on Armour since May 07 though ;)
Sue...
- low free T3 30th December 2007
... regarding my low free T3.
I am currently on 30mg armour . My TSH shot up to 4.06 recently and I just got my ... considered normal. Every time the doc puts me on 30 mg of armour my T3 gets to low and TSH number rises, although not ... as much as it did recently. When I take 60 mg of armour my TSH goes to low and I feel lousy with headaches ... TSH usually is between 0.03 and 0.08 on 60 mg of armour and free T3 and Free t4 I havent had tested at 60 ... my calculation I should probably be on around 50 mg armour but they dont make 50mg. Can the doctor cut the pills ... something to be able to at least give me a try on 50mg armour ? I beleive 30mg is to low and my hair and skin show ... for me. I need something inbetween. also on the armour both my TPO and TSI antibodies have almost doubled...
... Armour is made in a 15 mg (1/4 grain) tablet. That, combined...
... TSI antibodies should decrease or go away. I get my Armour in 15 mcg (1/4 grain) and increase by 1/4 of a 1/4...
- I'm Back, Former Friends 29th December 2007
... ended up with a goiter and nodules..........so I am on Armour for suppression and that helped also...the ignored...
- thyroid readings 29th December 2007
... this all started,they say something about finding Armour Thyroid Physician finder does anyone know how to find...
- Thoughts on this treatment approach 28th December 2007
... In early October I started Naturthroid ( Armour w/o preservatives). Doc started me on 1/4 grain then ... blood draw since starting meds. He changed my rx to Armour right off the bat since it's easier for me to get...
... that probably doesn't even do a damn thing (1/2 grain armour ) but how could they put me on meds and then tell me...
- ARMOUR Users - need YOUR input p-l-e-a-s-e 28th December 2007
... Hello............You are not on a very high dose of Armour ? I know everyone is different........I think how you ... weight loss due to stress?
I am on 3 Grains now of Armour ......my labs without it are low but within normal...
... of symtoms. I'm sure that's WHY he didn't raise the Armour . I should of said:
fatigue
dry skin
ditzy brained ...
When I spoke of losing weight, it was because Armour agrees with me, not stress related weight loss! (I ... helped me gain BACK 8 of the 12 I'd lost since starting Armour . Also when I'm not sleeping good - I eat more thinking...
... Hi...
I've only ever used Armour because it includes both t3 and t4 so, I'm opposed ... symptoms lessened if not dissappeared just by raising Armour dose by 1/2 grain. I hope this helps a little. ...
... better.............Let us know what happens with that Armour .........
Oleander...
- need help understanding blood work 27th December 2007
... and if that doesn't work for you I would switch to Armour Thyroid.
Good luck...
... appreciably raise your FT3 in a reasonable timeframe, Armour thyroid would be a better fit for you.
Your symptoms...
... whatever to free T4/T3.
... refuse to prescribe Armour and make up all kinds of false excuses why they don ... you not to be searching exclusively for an endo. Armour Thyroid has a physician directory of Armour prescribers...
- Armour vs. Synthroid w/Cytomel 27th December 2007
... wouldn't UP my Levoxyl dose, so that is when I sought Armour through my Osteopathic May 07. My body seems to like ... Armour better. Currently, I'm taking 1.5 grains (90 mg?) ... Armour along with 10 mcg's of Cytomel
good luck :)
Sue...
... I did great with the Armour , so it is unnerving to go through a switch right now...
- Midwest, 26th December 2007
... I hope you had a great Christmas,
I know you take Armour and I was wondering if you are in the 50 % or 75%...
- Latest lab results..... 25th December 2007
... convert into T3. There are T3 meds....Cytomel and Armour Thyroid....
- Will thyroid medication help me lose weight? 23rd December 2007
... hypothyroidism for years.......Even when they put me on Armour 2 1/2 Grains my T3 and T4 barely went up at all.....
- Help on Labs and New Dosing Range 21st December 2007
... from my recent posts, I have been unable to raise my Armour above 45mg for any period of time. But, becasue I ... the hyper feelings.
After a few days only on 45 mg Armour , I was still feeling poorly. I decided that I should ... quit the Armour becasue I was having either too much t3 for me and ... could not handle the direct t3.
On the 14th 30mg Armour
15th 30 mg - shaky etc
Quit Armour on ... high, and my Ft4 has been too low on the 45/60 mg of Armour .
I got desparate to see what was going on, so I had ... should I do? Ideally, I would like to be on levo and Armour combo. I don't want to go hyper again, so what titration...
... anxiety. UGGG... And I am also only on 45mcg's on Armour . I was adding a tad bit of levo in myself but decided ... I get back into see my endo. I upped my dosage of Armour yesterday to the full 60 and I was REAL DIZZY!! LOL ... I was taking the 112 mcg's of levo prior to trying Armour and felt just horrid.... I will say the foggy brained ... to have lifted for the most part while taking the Armour !
Good luck to you and keep me posted as I am also...
... break and slowly work up the t4 and then add back the armour to round off the t3. But, it doen't seem to be going ... wondering if I put too much stress on them with the Armour and the the cytomel.
I am going to give it a few...
... the same thing.
I was getting too much T3 from the Armour but not enough T4, I was taking 60mg of Armour.
I ... dropped my Armour to 45mg and added 25mcg of Levothyroxine.
Boy that ... doctor and he recommended to split the Levo and the Armour .
Take 0.30mg of Armour + 12,5 mcg of Levo in the morning ... and 0.15 mg of Armour + 12.5 mcg of Levo in the evening.
It made a big ... so shaky anymore.
I don't want to give up taking my Armour I think I just need some tweaking to find the right...
... depression added in. Recently, when i was doing the 45 Armour + Cytomel, when symptoms like these persisted, I was ... it confusing esp since I was on such a low dose of Armour .
I have cut out the Armour and Cytomel altogether...
... almost the same being hypo or hyper.
I dropped my Armour and I had some bad anxiety for 1 week, I also can...
- Recall of Armour-FDA website 21st December 2007
... ___________________________________
PRODUCT
a) Armour Thyroid (thyroid tablets, USP), 4-grain (240 mg), ... bottles, Rx only,
Recall # D-068-2008;
b) Armour Thyroid (thyroid tablets, USP). 3-grain (180 mg),...
... recall just effecting the 4 and 3 grain dosages of Armour ? Or should I call my pharmacist regarding my 1 grain...
... tablet/dose/size. If there was any question all of the Armour pills would have had what they call a voluntary recall...
- Going it alone? 21st December 2007
... is too low.
I would ask my doctor to switch me to Armour or add a little Cytomel.
Good luck...
... 01, who never felt well on levoT and wanted to try Armour (which contains T3 and T4). She had to fight to get...
... that will be preferable to going it alone and buying armour off the internet, but I still might have to do that...
... joy. If it's possible he would consider prescribing armour then I'll get my gp to refer me.
Thanks,
C....
- Started cytomel about a month ago and ... 20th December 2007
... more.
After trying the traditional meds, I started Armour last May. My last few increases don't show much change ... getting lower. So we just added some Cytomel to the Armour ....
- Armour Use 20th December 2007
... One of the changes was a switch from Levoxyl to Armour (I'm on 60 mcg). My latest labs even have my cholesterol...
... 45 mgs of Armour is a tiny dose. Most people seem to need around 3 ... low (because you are still on a very small dose of Armour ).
Similar thing happened to me when I switched ... from Synthroid to Armour too. In retrospect...I think it would have been better ... to slowly taper off the T4 med as the Armour dose is increased, slowly over time.
You could ... smaller dose of the T4 med as you slowly increase your Armour dose.
Also, when you are on Armour the FREE T3 ... levels in your blood. When you are on an adequate Armour dose the TSH tends to be surpessed to 0. (Lots of ... seem to know this & continue to try to regulate the Armour dose by the TSH & that will never bring good results ... ). The daily bump of T3 in the Armour tends to supress the TSH.
Also, when you have blood ... drawn for thyroid test....take the Armour AFTER they draw the blood (or the Free T3 level will...
... be optimized.
At first when I was switched to Armour from Levoxyl, I had a horrible 3 weeks (very achy ... supplements for adrenal fatigue, but I wanted to give the Armour a chance first. Once I started the supplements to...
- I need help to understand labs 19th December 2007
... whats going on after that.
I keep reading about armour thyroid. A couple of people have said to see about...
- New labs and more confused...any thoughts? 19th December 2007
... and low adrenals. She switched me from Levoxyl to Armour (60 mcg) and put me on supplements to support the...
... You need a higher dose, that's all. As good as Armour is, many times it won't raise FT4 to the height it ... balance with your FT4, you may need to supplement the Armour with a little T4 med....
... mere .01-.02 since about 6 months after I started Armour . In the right dosage, Armour will usually suppress ... it. If an MD wants to watch TSH while prescribing Armour , you aren't likely to succeed in becoming healthy...
- Hypothyroid Male 18th December 2007
... T3 can get too low on Synthroid alone. Cytomel and Armour are 2 meds that many of us take to increase the Free...
- Should I have my thyroid removed ? please help I have appointment 12/27 17th December 2007
... from my thyroid.......
You might want to research Armour since it helps with Fibro..........do not quote me...
- Running out of meds? 17th December 2007
... I purchase my prescriptions from Taiwan (generic Armour ) and they have extremely reliable. I say go for it...
- Tis the season to be JOLLY... 17th December 2007
... me . I would like a DO or someone that prescribes Armour . Can you help me. It is really ashame what we must...
... I went to the Armour physician finder database for the Mt. Pleasant/Charleston ... zip code. This dragged up MDs willing to prescribe Armour .. thus probabilities are high that they will be more ... me. I can not personally recommend them, but the Armour physician finder database has worked for many others...
- TSH shot way up real fast 16th December 2007
... Iv been on armour for quite a while and last time I got tested I was...
... Your TSH has gone sky high because your Armour dose isn't enough for a good-sized flea. You endo ... clearly does not know what he's doing. Armour should be dosed according to free T4 and free T3; ... irrelevant. In fact, people who are optimally dosed with Armour usually have suppressed TSH, but their FTs are still...
... midwest1;3352346]Your TSH has gone sky high because your Armour dose isn't enough for a good-sized flea. You endo ... clearly does not know what he's doing. Armour should be dosed according to free T4 and free T3; ... irrelevant. In fact, people who are optimally dosed with Armour usually have suppressed TSH, but their FTs are still...
- Question about T4 meds 15th December 2007
... My doctor added a little T4 to my Armour .
How many days does it take to get the full benefit...
... perhaps less likely to happen if you are already taking Armour .
Best wishes....
- need help with recent lab results 15th December 2007
... fatigue?? Could this explain why im feeling hyper on armour ???
7-8am and noon coritsol is depressed.
4-5...
... discusing my inability to tolerate a high enough level of armour on this board. See my post [url]www.healthboards.com ... hormone levels. However, I can't seem to achieve this on ARmour , as my levels are still too low and I can't tolerate ... any higher dose of Armour .
I am going to try a thyroxine/armour combo and...
- Med Change After Appt/Opinions PLEASE 14th December 2007
... says combined no wonder I feel like crap.
I am on Armour 2 1/2 Grains........they are moving me up to 3 Grains...
- Labs - Pls Help Me Decide on new treatment plan 14th December 2007
... levothyroxine in combination with a supplement of armour or cytomel.
For some reason, I can't tolerate 60 ... mg or more of armour , ( I have tried 75 which was too much, and then 60 ... tolerate the level of direct t3 I am getting with the armour and cytomel. Maybe it is due to my low/borderline ... this is that I can't seem to find a proper dosage of armour and t3 that really leaves me stable.
My second ... and I should go back to levothyroxine in combo with armour or cytomel? I am at a dead end since I can't up my ... armour , and I am hanging by a thread. :(...
... I just went through the same thing.
I was on 0.75 Armour , went hyper FT3 over the range, T4 went down.
Went ... down to 0.60 Armour , still didn't feel great.
My doctor just switched ... me to 0.30mg Armour and 0.50mcg Levothyroxine.
He thought I am getting ... Your levels are realy low, why don't you try a Levo / Armour combination ?...
... amount of T4 that you're taking. Why are you taking Armour ?
I took Armour for several months and slowly increased ... but my Ft3 was way out of range. The problem with Armour is that it has both T4 and T3 in it and you can't ... amount of T4 vs T3 that you're taking. Taking a little Armour with synthetic T4 works though. Why don't you do that ... biologically linked.
Remember, if you're using Armour as a source of T3 than you'll have to lower the amount ... of synthetic T4 your taking if you increase your Armour . Armour has T4 in it to and it might raise your T4...
... Sparkles......have you tried increasing your Armour in very very small amts ( like 1/4 of a 15 mg tablet ... longer but eventually you can get there. I get my Armour in 15 mg tablets cut one in 1/4's and add to my other...
... understand it is below optimum range.
SHMILY: On Armour , I tapered up since the summer. On Labor day, I started ... my adrenals cannot support any further increases in armour . My dr does not think I need to go the cortef route ... try the levo and t3 adjunct (I have not decided on armour or cytomel) as both David and Maus recommend.
... high an initial dose, like when I switched over to armour ....
... Sparkles if you take your 45mg of Armour
which contains
T4 - 28.5 mcg
T3 - 6.75 mcg
I would...
... 3350314]Thanks all for your suggestion
SHMILY: On Armour , I tapered up since the summer. On Labor day, I started ... Maybe that would work for you. For me, the t3 in Armour was much more gentle than cytomel....
... Maybe that would work for you. For me, the t3 in Armour was much more gentle than cytomel.
I totally agree ... that the cytomel is much less gentle than the T3 in Armour .
I spent almost more than 2 months tapering up ... on the armour from 15mg, by a 1/4 grain at a time. By early September ... starting to agree that maybe, I should give up on the Armour for a bit and try to restabilize on levothyroxine ... with Armour or cytomel added in (my choice - I think I will go ... with Armour for its gentler t3 action).
Believe me, I don't ... want to give up on the Armour idea:(, its just that I seem to need more thyroid ... that my adrenals can not handle a proper dose of Armour at the moment.
My ups and downs have been going ... from a mood standpoint, more stable (not GREAT like Armour ) on the levothyoxine at 88 mcg. That is the point ... seem to get my thyroid hormone levels optimised on Armour , I am faced with the certain need to increase them...
- Midwest, and anyone, help with new labs 13th December 2007
... appointment for last of Jan.
In April I increased my Armour a little at a time until I got up to 1 gr. (from 3 ... my test, after seeing my last labs, he increase my Armour and said we would adjust it after test results if ...
He first wanted me to decrease back to 3/4 grain Armour or try another combination of meds and I begged to ... stay on Armour and increase until I was in the upper range and he ... agreed. He thought I was not getting enough T4 from Armour . My thinking is....I am not getting enough of anything...
... The TSH on Armour is of little use (unless it's too high)...
Because ... tends to supress it to 0 when you are taking enough Armour .
The TSH is a piturary hormone.
Both your Free ... that you have the blood drawn BEFORE you take the Armour (on the days of blood test).
What dose are you...
... t take meds until after. I was taking 1 grain of Armour + 12 1/2 mcg levoxyl. I have to increase VERY slowly...
... increasing it a tiny bit more.
Are you taking your Armour under the tongue and splitting the dose into 2 times...
- how do you know when it's time for a new dr? 13th December 2007
... very least, but adding some T3 med (in the form of Armour or Cytomel) to the mix would be even better.
If ... if he/she does. Or check the physician finder at Armour thyroid to find a more open-minded, smarter MD....
- Hypo and Hormone Therapy-Estradiol 13th December 2007
... 2 periods in the last 6 months............I am on Armour for hypothyroidism and nodules.....
I can tell...
- Antibodies negative! TSH still climbing, now what? 12th December 2007
... have goiter, nodules and only a lower end lab result.. Armour has helped me..............
Good luck !!! Oleander...
- Armour Thyroid Recall? 12th December 2007
... I just ordered my Armour and I didn't have a problem....
- Daily Headaches On Armour???? 11th December 2007
... How long have you been on Armour hun? when I first started I got headaches for the ... unintentionally when I am increasing too and I have been on Armour for nearly 2 years lol.
Try drinking more water as...
...
I went to the doctor yesterday and he reduced my Armour ( too much T3 ) and he added a little bit of Levothyroxine...
... did I was still thirsty. I just started taking the Armour on Nov 11th. So really not that long. And I did...
- How do you dose your meds? And do you take Sublingually?? 11th December 2007
... the dosing 3-4 times per day. For exapmle, I take armour and take 90 mg upon waking (sublingually) and then...
... The armour won't interfere with your vitamins and food.. but ... and food can interfere with the absorption of your armour . If you are taking mineral supplements with in four ... hours of taking your armour then you can be suppressing the absorption by as much...
... I take Armour on an empty stomach, and I do let mine dissolve under...
- I am new, can anyone answer ? 10th December 2007
... causing it. No one belived me. Endo wouldn't prescribe Armour so searched for GP who would. He started me at 30mg...
... turning into a pumpkin.
Your FT4 is good. The Armour makes the TSH irrelevent.
As to where your T3 and...
... ft4 looks good BUT the ft3 is too high AND I lower armour , won't that then lower the ft4 and they both will...
... range.. but i have known other st take 2-2.5 grains of Armour and supplement with Synthroid or another T4 supplement ... evothroxine/synthroid to take up the slack.
There are four Armour prescribing MDs near you maybe more.. but these are ... I got.. Are you seeing any of these recommended by Armour 's physician finder? You might want to look into one...
... 2 grains. I have never thought about taking both Armour and Synthroid. I am afraid taking any amount of Synthroid ... None of it came back until I was off of it and on Armour only.
Ok, the temps comment makes me feel better...
... is, I would ignore the temp issue, and go to that Armour level that made you FEEL good. I think that is a...
- Anxiety and Armour 9th December 2007
... have some thyroid tissue working, combined with the armour , and now you have too much hormone.
I'm sure your...
... Your free Ts - the hormones that matter most during Armour use. (The TSH doesn't count for anything at all during ... Armour treatment. It frequently becomes suppressed from ... should be restored.
Your gyno is 100% mistaken that Armour is in any way "unstabile". It's formulated according...
... similar situation as yours. I to was on 3 grains of Armour & was having some hyper symptoms.
My Free T3 was ... in range", yea...the lousy range!
I decreased my Armour to 2 grains a day and added 50 mgs of Synthroid. ... my FREE T4 was too low.
Most doctors don't like Armour because they were (wrongly) taught that it was antiquated ... that instead of going to Cytomel to try a Synthroid/ Armour combo first.
A question - have you started on any...
... did not realize you could suppliment synthroid with armour , I will mention that to my doctor also. I would prefer ... to not stop taking Armour , as I have up until now loved how I feel whilst on ... really is a separate problem and unrelated to the Armour . If my doctor decreased my dose of the Armour, how ... results. I was under the impression that the T-3 from Armour is short lived (which is why I take a split dose ...
... Armour has T4 in it too and if your Free T4 level was too...
... tell me that most dr's don't like to prescribe the Armour because it is not pushed in the drug company world...
... just too complex and we are all different. I love Armour and really don't want to stop taking it, but if it ... generally I was miserable), and then we went with Armour , I am trying to remember why we stopped the Synthroid...
... Your situation is similar to mine. I changed to Armour about 4 months ago. The last time I had my labs done ... time these labs were taken I was taking 150 mg of Armour . My doctor indicated that the TSH was too low. I ... indicated that Levoxyl may be better for me instead of the Armour because the Armour (with T3) could be causing the ... Levoxyl so the anxiety may have nothing to do with Armour . I did begin Armour to hopefully increase my feeling...
- vision problems 9th December 2007
... This was a chronic problem for me until I switched to Armour and reached my optimal dosage, based on symptoms not...
- Quick Question About Armour And Levo Together??? 8th December 2007
... to keep taking the Levo once you start taking the Armour . What dosage of Armour are you replacing your Levo...
... Armour Thyroid -----------------------------Levothroxine...
... That Armour conversion is too low for the Armour (for most people).
This is one problems with using ... Armour , staying on too low a dose (using that conversion ... wrongly) continue to use the TSH to determine the Armour dose....and doctors and patients will wrongly think ... they gave Armour a good try, but it just didn't work. When you are ... on enough Armour the T3 in it tends to supress the TSH to 0 (that ... is why you shouldn't use the TSH to determine Armour doses). Use the Free T3 & Free T4 (and of course how ... .
Most people seem to need around 3 grains of Armour a day (best taken under the tongue and split into ... as a guide.....and you end up on too low a dose of Armour and the concluson that the Armour doesn't work.
... slowly decrease the levothyroixine as you increase the Armour dose. I didn't do that & now realise that it would ... to do that because you need to slowly increase the Armour dose to adjust to the T3 in it. The early doses will ... fourths.
I am now on a combination of Synthroid and Armour now....after 25 + years of Synthroid alone (and feelilng ... lousy for much of it) and 1 year on Armour alone...my FREE T3 was too high...so I am not taking...
... soooo much!
I am currently on only 45 grains of the armour where I was taking the 112mcg's of the levo when I ... been off of it for this long? Or just stick to the armour upping my dose every other week???
See, when I ... first started taking the armour I felt really, really good! Well I am now thinking ... conversion chart I really am UNDER medicated then with the Armour in comparison to what I was taking with the levo!...
... your system) & now you are left on a too dose of the Armour alone.
If you stay the current course...you will ... take a little of the Levo (and stay on the current Armour dose) you may feel better in a few days (but your ... combination of the last Levo dose you were on and some Armour added to that (to keep your T3 up to a good level ... your system and you are left on too low a dose of Armour . My palms even turned orange from being so hypo on ... the Armour alone at first!
Not trying to tell you what to...
- The Results are in "NORMAL" 7th December 2007
... would find an integrative care MD that prescribes Armour and work with them if you have symptoms. Have you...
- New Labs Suppressed TSH on Armour 7th December 2007
... pitutary hormone.
The daily bump of T3 from the Armour tends to supress that PITUTARY hormone (TSH) to 0 ... sure that they draw the blood and then you take the Armour . In other words wait and take your Armour after they ... convince your doctor that you need a higher dose of Armour ?
Posting links to other sites is not allowed on...
... I do wait until after my blood draw to take my Armour , which I learned from this site. Congrats on your ... Armour success, I feel fortunate to have found a doc to prescribe ... appt. when my TSH was .943 she did not want to up the Armour .
mkgbrook - Thank you for your calculations. Would...
... she looked at my Ft4 and Ft3 levels since I started Armour . She upped the Armour to 90! YEAH!!!! Thanks MG...
- Looking for Cytomel success stories 6th December 2007
... "1"](Osteopathic)[/SIZE] to let me take a stab at Armour last May. It's been rapidly sucsessful compared to ... the synthetics. If Armour doesn't work for me - I'd go back to Cyt/Levoxyl before ... When my Doctor did (reluctantly) allow me to go on Armour , he had me on 25 mcg's of Cytomel. All while he was ... took 1/2 the prescribed Cytomel because I knew that Armour had T3 in it also.
But in your case, I honestly...
... Suey. The doc I am seeing now prefers to prescribe Armour . But when I started seeing them I had seen some improvemen...
... and combo therapy. i DON'T have that trouble taking Armour though.
So maybe Armour would allow you to continue ... feeling only OK to pretty good. That's when I asked for Armour . My Doc was less than enthusiastic THEN, but is HAPPY...
- hypothyroid, recovery? 6th December 2007
... doctor for natural thyroid hormone replacement such as Armour that contains both T3/T4.
If your doctor/lab...
- Who can take Armour? 6th December 2007
... Anyone can take armour. Whether you need the T3 in the Armour is the more relevant question. What are your Ft3 ... 80% for both FT3 and ft4.. Then you may do well on Armour versus just a T4 supplement like Synthroid.
Sincerely...
... gland produces active T3. I would insist on taking Armour !...
- New to Hypo- Please help! 5th December 2007
... message to your doctor and ask him to switch you to Armour Thyroid....
- hello everyone xx 5th December 2007
... is stary and protrudes slightly. I am still on the armour and apart from the eye thing am feeling fantastic...
... LOL
Occasionally folks from the UK ask how to get Armour . There's a misconception that it can't be found there...
... its tracks before any real damage done.
I got my Armour by being a downright stubborn "so and so" and insisting ... whopping 10 not a typo and now having to take 2 grains of Armour a day, its leaving me rushing round like my butt...
- armour thyroid T3 find doctor 4th December 2007
... for you...that you are interested in trying either Armour or Cytomel (and ask him/her if he will tell you the...
... homeopath in Missouri who is also a licensed MD. Armour is his first choice of hypoT treatment. If you would...
- muscle aches and exhaustion even with treatment? 4th December 2007
... lementation (cytomel). If you are lucky, and she prescribes armour , you could consider this. But, first you need to assess...
- Energy but Palpitations:Day 1 Cytomel and Armour - Dosage Methods? 4th December 2007
... days.. so it is all out of your system hold on your Armour dosing where your blood work showed you were suboptimal ... T3. Hold at the 60 - 45 mg of Armour :
1) add just a 1/4 tablet of cytomel in the morning...
- Question About Armour 4th December 2007
... I felt like this when I took too much Armour .
Call your doctor and get your labs done. FT3 and...
... summer (trying to transiton from levothyroxine to armour ), I had many of the same symptoms, especially the ... I was convinced I would never be able to tolerate armour . I theorized that I had too much t4 still in my system ... wee bit overmedicated on the t4, and the 45 mg of armour was too much, too suddenly.
It took me ages to ... cutting back on the levothyroxine. I started at 15 mg armour and 44 mcg levo (half my original 88 dose). (You can ... thought my adrenals would prevent me from tolertaing armour , but working the dosage up slowly seemed to work....
... individuals. I am thinking you may be on too much Armour .
My labs every six weeks were 'normal' but seemed ... was 0.8 (0.35 - 5.5).
Was this at the 30 mg of Armour before bumping to 60 mg? Or after you have been on ... in the optimal T4 blood range here at 62%.
TSH on Armour a T4/T3 supplement means nothing. It is artificially ... you were at give the last blood results (30 mg of Armour ?) and added a touch of Cytomel to boost your T3 levels...
... tapered off the Synthroid as I slowly increased my Armour dose (instead of quitting the Synthroid or whatever ... T4 med....taper off as you increase the Armour ).
My adrenal insufficiecy was so bad (after 25...
... when I was only on Synthroid, before I started the Armour . I haven't had any labs done since I started Armour ... the advice of the new doctor and started only on the Armour . I know the TSH doesn't mean much when dealing with ... Armour . The new doctor is looking at the Ft3 and Ft4 from ... not sure if I should ask my doctor to increase the armour more slowly? She started me on 30 mgs, 15 twice per...
... when I was only on Synthroid, before I started the Armour . I haven't had any labs done since I started Armour ... the advice of the new doctor and started only on the Armour . I know the TSH doesn't mean much when dealing with ... Armour . The new doctor is looking at the Ft3 and Ft4 from ... not sure if I should ask my doctor to increase the armour more slowly? She started me on 30 mgs, 15 twice per ... need to heal as well as get well.
I have been on armour for around 17 months now and every day just gets better...
- Am I now Hyper? Help with New Lab Results 3rd December 2007
... backing of the T4 and supplementing the T3 instead. Armour may be a better choice than synthroid and cytomel...
- How to find a doctor who will treat a child who is subclinical 3rd December 2007
... strong family history of hypothyroidism. I am on Armour thyroid, my sister is on Cytomel and Synthroid. My...
- can you help me with this? 3rd December 2007
... Anna Davis, MD (Internal Medicine) That prescribed Armour in New Orleans. She may be open minded to your needs ... . Use the Armour Physician Finder and your Zip to determine other armour...
- Help Interpreting Lab Data & Whether Synthroid Seems Like the Wrong Med 2nd December 2007
... having problem converting T4 to T3, and, consequently, Armour would be the preferred course. Notwithstanding, my...
... You do know how few endos are willing to prescribe Armour , don't you?
Wishing you luck getting it sorted...
... You can use the Armour physician finder and your zip to determine if there ... is a registered MD near you that prescribes Armour . I was lucky to have one in town. Maybe you will ... small dose of cytomel if your Endo is completely anti Armour .
Good luck getting straight.
MG...
- Hashimotos to Graves??? 2nd December 2007
... again and another medicine My Dr finally put me on Armour Thyroid which has worked great for me. I am on the...
... is with in 10 mi of your location that prescribes Armour and thus may be a bit more receptive to open minded ... MD - Family Medicine - Meredith
You can use the Armour physician finder to dig up registered MDs that prescribe ... Armour. Those that prescribe Armour are a bit more open in practice.. because there was ... only synthroid was needed. So those that prescribe Armour think outside of the box.
MG...
- Desparately Seeking Advice~~Hashimoto's~Test Results 2nd December 2007
... will go up? Look into Cytomel.. or transitioning to Armour instead. Good luck you are getting there. The normal...
... will hopefully feel lots better with some Cytomel or Armour thyroid.
Also, the mineral Selenium is needed by...
- can this be fibro am i just crazy? 1st December 2007
... diagnosed me with fibromyalgea.
I started taking Armour (and iron , because my FERRITIN was 15) and those...
- ARMOUR and questions? Midwest any thoughts?? 30th November 2007
... they can about their hypoT, so just to clarify ~ Armour dosage can be expressed two ways, in milligrams (mgs ... d be in pretty bad shape if you took 60 grains of Armour ... :D
The return of achiness and other symptoms ... usually means an increase is needed. When I started Armour treatment, I had to go very slowly too (for a different...
