- Is This Really Menopause Or Just Plain Hashimoto's? Confused.. 28th April 2008
... am quite uncomfortable every few days. I'm also on Armour Thyroid and meds for type 2 diabetes.
Also correct...
- FT %'s 27th April 2008
... simple and your RT3 comes back high and they put you on Armour or cytomel to fix the T3 deficiency. In the mean...
- Armour and Hashimoto ? 26th April 2008
... kinda sounds like it may be a smear campaign against Armour . I do not take it.. but I went into medication knowing ...
I wonder if this is a spin off of peopel taking armour when they do not need the extra T3 supplement, the...
... Well I sure hope not because I have Hashis and am on Armour ! I only started about a month ago & am still working ... though. He is extremely well versed on thyroid and Armour ....
... references, Hashimoto's is not a flag against using Armour .
Adrenal/pituitary issues are supposed to be treated...
... I have Hashimoto's and my doctor switched me from Armour to Thyrolar due to the potential of Armour creating...
... you feel like cow excrement be they 60 or 2000.
Armour will not increase your antibody levels. Undertreated ... Your immune system alone makes more antibodies. Armour DOES NOT increase Hashimoto's antibodies! Where do...
... with candida causing all my symptoms!!! I've been on Armour for a month and feel so much better!...
... I thought that Armour was supposed to help with the Hashi's symptoms by ... felt horrible the whole 6 months.
I started on Armour a little over two months and it has worked wonders...
- free T3 of 480 26th April 2008
... on Wednesday of this week. I've been on 120 mg of Armour for about 5 weeks. This was after dropping back to ... 480!!! 6 weeks prior to this (when I was on 90 mg Armour ) my Free T3 was 312, 6 weeks prior to that (when I ... was on 120 mg Armour ) My Free T3 was 325. This can't be right. I tried...
... on Wednesday of this week. I've been on 120 mg of Armour for about 5 weeks. This was after dropping back to ... 480!!! 6 weeks prior to this (when I was on 90 mg Armour ) my Free T3 was 312, 6 weeks prior to that (when I ... was on 120 mg Armour ) My Free T3 was 325. This can't be right. I tried...
- Maybe it's the Cytomel? 26th April 2008
... cytomel.. no good for her.. then they went to straight Armour .. better but too much T3. In the end she ended up ... with 75 mcgs of T4 and 1 grain of Armour . The key she and her ENT/Endo/IM team determined...
- Does Armour contain iodine too? 26th April 2008
... tigger67,
I don't know if Armour has iodine in it or not. It could just be a shifting ... actually think my skin has improved since getting on Armour but it's probably too soon to say for sure. My doc...
... think is even possible - it isn't being caused by Armour . Neither Armour nor any of the synthetic pills have...
- My Daughter's Labs 25th April 2008
... terribly until appropriately diagnosed and started on Armour (still working to optimal). I went through periods...
- So how do I know the real reason for the acne? 25th April 2008
... torn between waiting it out or asking my dr. about Armour . I hate to keep switching meds (I just switched from...
... bad acne stuff sucks, my endo won't even talk about armour and I drive 3 hrs to see him. I go to my family dr ... monday and I'm going to ask her to prescribe me the armour . It's worth it to try, at this point I'll do anything...
... that she is on my side, and if I decide to try the armour , then she will prescribe it to me!! I have to wait...
- I am shocked that my "top doc" gave me this advice 25th April 2008
... visit. At my last visit a yr. ago he had me on 45 mg Armour + 12 1/2 mcg Levoxyl. My last lab tests in his office ... she told me she wanted to increase me to 1 1/2 grain Armour . I had to increase slowly by 1/4 of a 1/4 grain at ... since I last saw him.
11-28-07___________60 mg Armour + 12 1/2 Levoxyl
TSH....................0.881... ... ..Range 211 - 946
2-13-08____________67 1/2 mg Armour + 12 1/2 Levoxyl
TSH......................0.842. ... .......Range 10 - 291
4-17-08____________90 mg Armour NO Levoxyl
TSH......................0.10....... ... ermedicated and he was going to decrease me back to 1 grain Armour only. I pleaded with him and reminded him of all my...
... Let us see where you are:
4-17-08____________90 mg Armour NO Levoxyl
TSH......................0.10......... ... .. ...Range .40 - 4.20 - Armour has T3 supplementation that suppresses this, TSH is...
... Thyroid Strong [ I think that was what they called Armour back then]. Then for about 10 yrs I took 2 gr of Thyrolar ... treatment and have finally worked back up to 1 l/2 gr of Armour and most of my symptoms are nearly gone. That's how...
- Thyroid Meds and Inderal 24th April 2008
... AnnD, thanks for your response.
I take Armour Thyroid; which thyroid medication were you taking...
- Will someone explain the controversy over Armour? 23rd April 2008
... its hard to find a doc to prescribe armour because they are tought in med school that levothroxine ... is the meds of choice. They are tought that Armour fluctuates in its consistancy therefore its inaffective ... mostly good, tell me a line of crap. She says if on Armour she will only test the TSH and not the T3 and T4 because ... Armour is unpredictible and the only true reading is done ... just like blood pressure and cholestrol medicine.
Armour thyroid is cheaper and its been around for over 100...
... Many, many people do equally well on Armour or Levothyroxin or a combination of both. Both can ... unique needs. I think some doctors don't prescribe Armour because they have never really learned about it and ... to treat with it. I am one that doesn't tolerate Armour well but I do wonderfully on Synthroid, a synthetic ... The synthetic T4 drugs are a life-saver for me as Armour is for many others. You just need to experiment and...
... I searched out a doctdor that would prescribe me Armour . I switched to Armour about 6 weeks ago and am doing...
... Armour thyroid was the first manufactured thyroid supplement ... all the people who need thyroid replacement. But Armour continues to fill the needs of many of them who can ... for me. I knew I had options, so I sought out an Armour prescriber. It didn't once overmedicate me the way ... year of titration to my optimal dose, I'm fine with Armour today.
The only way to know whether it would work ... let any MD try to give you that load of hooey about Armour being the lesser product. It most certainly isn't...
... I was on a combination of Synthroid and Armour for years and was quite happy and well. This past ... After much experimentation I finally had to drop the Armour completely. It just got to be too much for my system ... the T4/T3 conversion better. My doctor prescribes Armour and has told me that if I ever need the Armour, I...
... - I cannot answer that. Lack of understanding how Armour works & its other benefits would be my best guess ... feel or your labs...both perhaps?
My Mom has taken Armour for 50+ years. She's tried other meds, but has always ... preferred Armour . Seriously they used to dose SOLEY on how the patient ... Wild ride. After battling my Osteopathic to GET on Armour , I could of kissed him the visit he said
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... 3543232]Why is it hard to find a doctor to prescribe Armour ? Is it unpredictable? Dangerous? Hard to get? ... it. Why is it such a hot topic?
HI
I was on Armour Thyroid from the age of 18 months until 28 years of...
... BRAVOOOOOOOOOOOOOO from an ardent Armour user...
- dx in 2003 - 1st back to dr for check 23rd April 2008
... for target ultrasound and FNA of the nodules. The Armour should be fine if they are keepingyou optimized and...
... thanks for the direction.
I was able to get my armour increased but since the DR doesn't know what she is...
- New here and would welcome your experienced input 22nd April 2008
... terms that she will not and would never prescribe Armour , quoting me "facts" about it that I know to be untrue...
... need to go to an Md willing to prescribe T3. The Armour physician locator database can narrow your search...
- Dr. Michael Reilly in Lake Zurich Illinois good or any IL doc who give Armour? 22nd April 2008
... I took myself to a MD whom I knew would prescribe Armour .
After setting up the first appt time, the office ... than the next person; but I had my sights set on that Armour and decided, "What can it hurt?" I didn't believe...
... He does prescribe armour .
I think he is OK though as a doctor. His staff ... office is a bit better than that though if you want the armour ...see him....
- Synthroid and T3 just aren't cutting it.... 21st April 2008
... synthetic T3 (cytomel) and natural in the form of Armour . I currently am using armour for my T3 because it ... finally settled in to 50mcg. synthroid and 90 mcg of Armour last fall and have felt pretty good ever since. ...
... road however, but a long one. The natural route of Armour (or others similar) just may be what you need to feel...
... mix and match to feel right. She couldn't do pure Armour .. it was too much T3.. she couldn't do pure synthroid ... She ended up on 75 mcgs of synthroid and 1 grain of armour . This is perfect for her. Occasional she has to ... add a quarter to half a grain of Armour depending on stress but her optimal maintanence is...
- It's a mystery 21st April 2008
... are you on? I was on a combination of synthroid and armour thyroid most recently and ended up dropping the armour ... well for me. I was on 100 mcg synthroid and 60 mg armour and now have leveled off again at 125mcg synthroid...
... Deb--
Aren't you on Armour ? It is not unusual for Armour users to have a severely ... frees in range. I believe the best way to dose with Armour is by frees alone. And from the looks of your new ... with very minor tweaking to be done. Hopefully some Armour users will chime in(I am not on Armour myself, but...
... and not feeling quite up to par on the current 60 MG Armour BID. It could be the pitutiary due to undue stress...
... Since you are on Armour you might want to look into an Armour /synthroid combination. Cut back to 1 grain of Armour ... your T4 levels are just right.
Sue is right being on Armour your TSH is going to be artificially suppressed by...
- Thyroid Transplant? 21st April 2008
... lifetime of dangerous anti-rejection drugs when my Armour "fixes" everything just fine....
... Brands of natural dessicated thyroid in the US are Armour Thyroid, Nature-Throid, and Westhroid. There is one...
- Fibromyalgia actually Thyroid? Please help 21st April 2008
... to T3 as needed. You might also ask for a trial of Armour thyroid which is natural porcine thyroid hormone that...
... text book anything! Thankfully, he listens.
I take armour thyroid, and so far it hasn't been a noticable help...
... info too. I was really hoping that if I got on the Armour that my symptoms might get better...but it doesn't...
... Stephanie,
I take Armour and when I first got on it and my thyroid was regulated ... over-medicated" or my thyroid stopped needing as much Armour that things have gotten so out of hand and gone the ... least six other synthetic thyroid medications before Armour and none of them agreed with me or helped me, including ... synthetic T4 plus Cytomel. Nothing worked as well as Armour . Armour has not only T4 & T3, but all of the other...
... find a real good endo that cares more about trying Armour and the other tests? I went to one who was a young...
... Good question you have to MD shop.
I use the Armour thyroid physician locator.. THEN I call the individual...
- hashsi 21st April 2008
... ..since u have episodes of hypo and hyper......is armour good for this? or just t4 alone...
... Well you need Armour if you have an imbalance in T4 and T3 where your T3...
- Thyroid care concerns around the world - week 2 21st April 2008
... range of normal. T3 supplementation such as cytomel or Armour results in TSH suppression and as a result you must...
... I am in Baltimore, MD. I checked the Armour database and one of the first results was the first...
... Yank it and move onward and upward. Mix and match Armour with synthroid until you are optimal. One foot in...
... Yank it and move onward and upward. Mix and match Armour with synthroid until you are optimal. One foot in...
... the better chance the synthroid will have. i tried armour thyroid years ago and i felt worse, so basically i...
- Hypothyroidism problems 20th April 2008
... of acne.So my doctor switched me over to 30 mg of armour and I have been taking it for almost 3 weeks.Well ... with the armour I have been so hungry and I have gained 5 pounds and ... should switch to something else or just stay on the armour .Any suggestions?...
... started on meds, but I wonder if I should ask about Armour ....
- Please Help! Question About Percentages.? 20th April 2008
... evothyroxine contains 50 mcgs of T4 and no T3.
30 mgs of Armour contains 19 mcgs of T4 and 4.5 mcgs of T3....
... has actually gone up some is when I was taking the Armour . But then on the Armour I end up getting to much ...
For now I will take
75mcg's levo with 30mg armour or 15mg armour depending on how I feel.... I am also ... dose to 100mcg's for now and just doing the 15mg's Armour ....????...
- Hypo and enlarged heart 19th April 2008
... thyroid specialist a yr. ago I was taking 3/4 gr. Armour +12 1/2 mcg Levoxyl. My labs were:
TSH........ ... T3.
My gp gave me a prescription for 1 1/2 gr. Armour , to discontinue the Levoxyl and told me to gradually ... increased. By November I was taking 1 1/4 grains Armour and my labs were:
TSH...................0.881. ... uppressing TSH.
I have felt better on the higher dose of Armour but am feeling like I need another increase. Muscles...
... 10......... ..................40 -4.20 - Being on Armour this is pretty much meaningless.
Ft4............. ... cytomel? You may need more T3 than you can get in Armour alone.
MG...
- New Doctor/new Labs 19th April 2008
... before concerning my thyroid issues. Briefly, I was on Armour for 40 years and everything when hairwire back in ... mid-March my doctor changed me to Synthroid. The Armour problem caused me to have heart palpitations and then ... converting - I see the T3 is low and after 40 years on Armour - my body didn't have to do that.
I like the doctor...
- post graves - doc says normal levels but my body says otherwise 18th April 2008
... 50 whatever - felt awfull - found a dr who presribe armour thinking it would be better since its has t3. Anyway ... culprit. I take vitiamins, 5mg dheas 3/4 of 1 grain of armour . I wonder about enzymes, a little iron or iodine...
... hormones, but I can tell you are taking far too little Armour . Average full replacement for women is about 120...
... hormones, but I can tell you are taking far too little Armour . Average full replacement for women is about 120...
... TSH is completely irrelevent while taking Armour . My own TSH has never been higher than .02 since ... hormone, not a thyroid hormone; and the T3 in the Armour suppresses it. That's OK, as long as the actual thyroid...
... 01
Ft3 3.12
I've been on 3/4 of a a grain of armour The TSH went way up which I thought from earlier ... iodine levels as well. Will taking the ideal dose of armour help these levels? Anyway I talked my physician in ... to taking 1 grain of armour four 4 weeks then going up to 1 1/2 for 2 months....
... cortisol levels. Sorry to be a nag. I increased Armour to 1 grain, thought I was feeling better but now starting...
... FTs aren't moving at all, especially since you take Armour . It should be suppressing the TSH. But one thing...
... I've increased the armour dose I am taking and have notice my eyes becoming...
- Difficulty swallowing and tons more..... 18th April 2008
... 30 years and tried almost all the meds but now on Armour 90mg. I have been on several antidepressants along...
- Acne is getting worse! 18th April 2008
... My acne is getting better since starting Armour . I've had it for 25+ years! I knew it was hormonal...
- New Lab tests----Low cortisol Please help 17th April 2008
... Last Nov. I had labs done. I was taking 1 grain Armour (60 mcg) + 12 1/2 mcg Levoxyl.
TSH............ ... Levoxyl was discontinued and I worked up to 82 mcg Armour only.
Had labs done middle of Feb. and labs were ... 2.3 - 4.2
I increased up to 90 mcg (1 1/2 gr.) Armour and just had more labs:
TSH................... ... He would not increase my labs
to more than 45 mcg Armour + 12 1/2 Levoxyl with a TSH of 1.35 and
frees at...
... Whoa! Way too low. You may need more than the Armour . I would suspect high cortisol or high levels of...
... 1/2 grains [nearly double what he had me on] on my Armour and have been feelling better, not hyper, bp is better ... I guess he's been wondering who's prescribing my Armour . I would have to call his office about 3 times every ... good enough to write the prescription for 1 1/2 gr of Armour and let me work up to that amount, but she probably...
- T4 lab range question 17th April 2008
... Synthroid. That was no option for me, so I went to an Armour prescriber. I never again was overmedicated the same...
... 37; too high , where should she be ?
She can't get Armour , she already tried to find someone but she has no...
- Hi 16th April 2008
... midrange FT4. I don't know my TSH since getting on Armour . I'm off all thyroid meds b/c Armour wasn't making...
- Red Eyes 16th April 2008
... you want to join YES or NO ? lol!:D
I was taking Armour and I never felt good. In addition, I was feeling ... points over. I was seeing a GP that only prescribed Armour but he wouldn't do combo or switch me to Synthroid ... stop the meds is because early 2007 I stopped the Armour and went back in for testing after 4 weeks. My TSH ... physically tired and foggy that I ended up resuming Armour . Maybe I should have waited another two weeks and ... more. I have Hashi's so this is why I want to stop Armour . It never worked well and always made me feel worse...
- Low body temp-hypo 15th April 2008
... first day I took mine it was 92. I'm just starting Armour & still working up to my ideal dose though....
- Can someone tell me what my blood test numbers reveal? 15th April 2008
... HATED IT! I pretty much forced my doctor to put me on Armour and almost instantly I felt more energy,lost the excess ... the blood work and told me that I had to lower my armour !!!
I use this example as what I feel like is ... have in years. Currently I take a total of 180 mg of Armour or 3 grains (2 in the morning and 1 in the afternoon ... ). I have been on armour is a smaller dose for over 3 years but have been on...
... That .4 on the free T3 doesn't look right for an Armour user.
Waiting to hear from you......
... you are pushing hyperT and need to cut back on the Armour and add T4 supplementation to get your Ft3 and Ft4...
... you are pushing hyperT and need to cut back on the Armour and add T4 supplementation to get your Ft3 and Ft4 ... after the removal) I have had amazing results with Armour thyroid has given me a 30 day supply until she figures ... are normal
TSH/total t3 is still slightly high on Armour thyroid - we will make no changes at present and discuss...
... How much Armour are you on?
I can see why they are worried with the ... I like you am adrenal insufficient. I can not take Armour , because I convert too much of my T4 to T3.
Your ... the adrenal issue is sorted.. then move back on to Armour ... or cut the Armour in half and supplement with T4...
... I take 3 grains or 180 mg of armour . 2 in the am and another 1 in the late afternoon. ... I asked about adding something to the armour but this doc doesn't even want me on it at all! She...
... You are hyperT on that much Armour . You need to cut back because of the hyperT in T3 ... T4 and hyperT in T3.. you need to cut back on the Armour .. but I would want someone flexible enough as an MD...
... have a functioning thyroid. If I take less of the armour what should I ask to try to add to it? BLAH......this...
- Thyroid Test Result- Do I have thyroid? Please help 15th April 2008
... I ask for: generic or brand name? Should I ask for armour ? Please advice on how to convince my endo to treat...
... I ask for: generic or brand name? Should I ask for armour ? Please advice on how to convince my endo to treat...
- Still trying to understand... 15th April 2008
... results. I don't understand why my FreeT4 number on Armour was so much lower than when I was on Levothyroxine ... bloodwork done last week after being on 1.5 grains of Armour for 6 wks. My results were Ft3 47% and Ft4 22%, TSH ... Free T4 being lower, why isn't the T3 higher since Armour actually contains T3? I just want to make sure that...
... straight pharmokinetics interaction. You may absorb armour differently. 1.5 grains of Armour can act like 111 ... herself using 75 mcgs of Synthroid and a grain of Armour . She needed a little T3 and a good dose of T4. ... willing to let you add 25 - 50 mcgs of T4 alone to your Armour . It may be what you need.
MG...
... Been leveling Armour for 11 months. My Doctor started low at 3/4 grain ... last increase getting me to 2 grains (120 mg's) of Armour . And though my dose has gotten bigger, my T4's have ... my T4's were never higher than 1.1
What dose of Armour are you on? Where did you start? and END?
I'm seriously ... thinking of asking to add some Levoxyl TO the Armour , then see how my T4's look....
... Suey77~
I started out on 1/2 grain of Armour the end of January. Since then I worked up to 1.5...
- 40 yr-old U.S. Marine w/ possible Hashimotos... 14th April 2008
... Look for an Internal Medicine specialist on the Armour physician locator database, they would be the easiest...
... Look for an Internal Medicine specialist on the Armour physician locator database, they would be the easiest...
- So let me get this straight 14th April 2008
... of its name). How about all of you that are on Armour ? Do you have weight problems too?
I do take...
- Newbie with thyroid questions-- Hi all! 14th April 2008
... delayed release drugs. Hypothyroid now treated with Armour . Diabetes with Metformin. Apparently, now, I'm having...
... sleep on my left side. BTW-- the first two months on Armour were HEAVEN! And even though I've battled thyroid...
... he dropped my med level and refused to put me on Armour (after my nit-wit of a family doctor kept me on low...
- Thyroid Meds 14th April 2008
... Liz,
When you had the problem with Armour did you had heart racing or palpitations ?
Just wondered...
... board members look at it.
Tell them you switched from Armour to Synthroid.
I am glad you had a good time being...
... thing - all the months with the problems with the Armour and heart palpitations and a separate issue. I have...
... info. He was the one that told me that the T3 in Armour could have become too heart stimulating for me. Anyway...
... think you will, you took such a high dose with your Armour so I think adding a little bit will not make you hyper...
... years, no problem.
Now, after going off the Armour and I won't ever know what happened with that - although...
... for a while and felt ok not great so I wanted to try Armour .
I think my doctor than didn't know much about it...
... years. I just have no idea what went wrong with the Armour . Oh, well, that is past and I can't do anything about...
... small study. But not to take the T3 drugs Cytomel or Armour at night cause it might keep you awake.
Says conversion...
... Liz,
Yes I did with Armour took half in the morning and half in the evening....
... is hard though as I know before with splitting the Armour - about when to take what. I know you can't take...
... instead of bed as I was trying to do when I was having Armour problems - but guess it doesn't matter as if I don ... it in 24 hours -I guess it is OK.
When I was on Armour I never had a problem as I told you.....until the...
... ( 2.25 mcg ) so we switched back to
1/2 grain of Armour with 25mcg of Levothyroxine, this will dropp my T4 ... think I will get heart palps, he wants me to split the Armour and take it half an hour after breakfast and lunch...
... 2.25 mcg ) so we switched back to
1/2 grain of Armour with 25mcg of Levothyroxine, this will dropp my T4 ... think I will get heart palps, he wants me to split the Armour and take it half an hour after breakfast and lunch ... toward helping you so much. Also he does prescribe Armour which is good, I guess. It worked for me for so long ... have worked. Oh, well. My endo does not work with Armour at all. Is the Levo??? the same as Synthroid or...
... endo needs to add some Cytomel or a small dose of Armour to your Synthroid
your next lab test will tell
Levo...
... endo needs to add some Cytomel or a small dose of Armour to your Synthroid
your next lab test will tell
... for sure. So basically he lowered your T4 and added Armour ? How much Armour? I am not sure what makes up a ... grain of Armour as I always got the tablets in milligrams.
...
... He added 30 mg of Armour so he doubled my T3 and reduced my T4 a little.
I ... visit what he thinks about adding a little Cytomel or Armour
Sorry but when is your next appointment ? how long...
... [QUOTE=mauz;3549359]He added 30 mg of Armour so he doubled my T3 and reduced my T4 a little.
I ... visit what he thinks about adding a little Cytomel or Armour
Sorry but when is your next appointment ? how long...
... want my T4 level to come down so I am just taking the Armour .
Tomorrow I will start the levo again.
Yes waiting...
... want my T4 level to come down so I am just taking the Armour .
Tomorrow I will start the levo again.
Yes waiting...
... joint and muscle pain just bad.
He said to take the Armour 30 minutes after lunch and dinner and the Levo on...
... joint and muscle pain just bad.
He said to take the Armour 30 minutes after lunch and dinner and the Levo on ...
Hi Pia,
Seems interesting to take the Armour after lunch - that means you will have food - so perhaps...
... feeling a little bit better.
Today I took my levo and Armour so this is the first day on the new combo.
I don't...
... feeling a little bit better.
Today I took my levo and Armour so this is the first day on the new combo.
I don...
... have to make sure they do those test, you were taking Armour and he doesn't know yet if you convert enough.
Liz...
... have to make sure they do those test, you were taking Armour and he doesn't know yet if you convert enough.
Liz...
- quick question 14th April 2008
... said if i want to she can switch me from synthroid to armour ....we think maybe synthroid is causing the weight ... has anyone had good results going from synthroid to armour ....what kind of side affects........
... SIZE="1"](<-150 / 25->)[/SIZE] Cytomel (t3) Combo to Armour . For me I went from feeling like a shell of a human ... actually living life. Of course on the lower doses of Armour , I had fatigue, but I felt so much better being on ... Armour than the Levoxyl/Cytomel combo.
Personally, Synthroid...
- Thyroid care concerns around the world - week 1 14th April 2008
... be evil. I found one after Midwest told me of the Armour physician locator database. The MD I found dealt...
... advocate for the majority: I've now taken to importing Armour . For me it's working, I feel alive properly for the...
...
another UK lass here who is having to import own Armour with a GP who says he doesn't understand T3 and only ... better than I was but having some problems raising the Armour and having more problems getting treatment for my...
- do dr.'s treat symptoms and not just blood results? 13th April 2008
... alternative medicine realm. You could look on the Armour Thyroid homepage at their physician locator tool and ... you can find someone in your area that prescribes Armour . Usually docs who use Armour are less conservative...
... I was oversupplemented. So we decided to drop the armour and go synthroid only. After 3 weeks on 100 mcg synthroid...
... About a year ago I convinced my Osteopathic to TRY Armour . My TSH has been all over the map, 3.37 to [SIZE=...
... you labs are still normal. I found my keeper on the Armour thyroid physician locator database. The others in...
... started with this new Doc & I found him through the Armour site. He didn't even wait for my first labs before ... starting me on Armour . He's a complete 180 from my old Doc!
He uses...
... started with this new Doc & I found him through the Armour site. He didn't even wait for my first labs before ... starting me on Armour . He's a complete 180 from my old Doc!
He uses ... my new dr. is like this. I would love to just try armour ....
- Calling Midwest?? 12th April 2008
... most. Some need a token dose of T3 and T2 to boot! Armour contains all.. as well as the other natural thyroid...
- Too Much T3 12th April 2008
... 120mg(60mg in the morning and 60 in the afternoon) of Armour , and 62.5mcg of Levoxyl. These tests were taken before ... with a new doc very soon, but I want to decrease my Armour dose but not sure by how much....
... 120mg(60mg in the morning and 60 in the afternoon) of Armour , and 62.5mcg of Levoxyl.
want to decrease my Armour ... dose but not sure by how much.
I'd cut ONE Armour dose to 30mg's & see how your labs look with 90mg ... 's Armour plus your Levoxyl. [SIZE="1"][COLOR="DarkRed"] << ... T4's[/SIZE]
[COLOR="Gray"]Personally, I'm taking Armour 120 mgs & Cytomel 12.5 mcg's. My T4's were still ... I'm thinking of asking for some Levoxyl to go with Armour and dumping Cytomel altogether. how long have you...
... Yes I am cutting one Armour dose in half. I've been on this dose before, but ... use a change to add a T4 med to get your number up. Armour and Cytomel lots of T3 and not enough T4....
... visit, I'm going to suggest adding some Levoxyl to the Armour , while cutting out the Cytomel.
I've taken traditional...
... this.. because it will be suppressed by the T3 in the Armour .
FT4- 1.65 (.61-1.76) - 90.43% This is above ... definitely need to go down a bit in meds.
Droping the Armour would e the best choice.. because your T3 levels are...
... Yes I dropped the Armour 30mg ( a little scary to have the T3 so high). I...
... through the roof before because I was on 240 mg of Armour and my doctor didn't know what he was doing....
- Taking the Armour plunge - Day One tomorrow! 11th April 2008
... Hi ljrfrm :)
I've been on Armour twice in the last 2+ years. VERY briefly:) in the ... dose of Levoxyl/Cytomel you were on? And what dose of Armour your Doc started you on?
Keep us posted ;)
Sue...
... Cytomel. My endo asked me if I wanted to start the Armour on the higher or lower side. His preference was higher...
... Some people don't tolerate A LOT of Armour just b-o-o-m. I'd tell Endo to start me HIGH, but...
... ljrfrm,
I started Armour about a month ago and I felt better the day I started ... that they will all go away once I'm optimized on the Armour .
I had been on 125 mcg of Levothyroxine for 6 months ... had hardly noticed a difference in my symptoms. The Armour has helped so much.
Good luck on the switch!...
- what the crap happend 11th April 2008
... ( 65 - 99)
From This is was put on 25 mg of Armour
I didn't like the doctor. So I moved on. New doctor ... took me off Armour and put me on 125 mcg Levoxyl and 25 mcg cytomel...
... Can you clarify something? Were you already on Armour when the Nov 2007 labs were drawn or were you put...
... I was put on the Armour after the lab results, before that I was on synthoid ... made a mistake in original post. I was on 90mg of Armour . Sorry for the mistake.
I was symptomatic. Have...
- dr. not taking me seriously 11th April 2008
... should go with it or refer you to an Endo. Look on the Armour physician locator and see if any of the MDs are on...
... using some natural meds so am wondering if he does Armour ?...
- went to endo need help 10th April 2008
... looking online for doctors in your area who prescribe Armour . That might be a good way to start. They don't have...
... doctor - one who will up your synthroid (or prescribe armour ) until your TSH is closer to 1. Yeah, 1. Not 8....
- Labs - Do I Have Hypothyroidism? 10th April 2008
... your high normal cortisol output.
Putting you on Armour is a good call you need a boost in T4 and an added...
... your high normal cortisol output.
Putting you on Armour is a good call you need a boost in T4 and an added...
- Midwest 9th April 2008
... girlfriend! I caught your post on Sue's thread about Armour users. Yes, I am a gardener, and you guessed it-...
- Feeling horrible!!! 9th April 2008
... used a generic Gettysburg zip and dug up a list of Armour thyroid recommended physicians. Maybe one will work...
- Newbie 9th April 2008
... medicine will make a person feel bad and 3.5 grains of Armour seems like a lot to me....
- Please help! Have antibodies on thyroid... 9th April 2008
... MD. I got my keeper after going through 5, off the Armour thyroid physician locator database. You can not just...
- Sorry Need Help With Test Results 9th April 2008
... synthroid, couldnt take it, so now I have been taking armour thyroid for 30 days and the new blood test showed...
... with numbers like those, because the optimal dose of Armour usually suppresses TSH to below 1... and because your...
- Hashimoto's, what test should I request? 8th April 2008
... for you help! MG I used a doctor that was on the Armour list, and he said nothing about Armour. He is supposed...
... MDs recommended on the site do not just prescribe Armour . It is always worth a try to just start with a T4...
- Med question 8th April 2008
... Midwest
I was on 37.5mg of Synthroid + 1/4 grain of Armour = 47mcg of T4
my labs:
FT3 3.2 ( 2.3-4.2 ... small increase in my FT3 level.
I didn't tolerate the Armour well so he added Cytomel
I don't want my FT4 level...
... switched me from 37.5mcg of Synthroid + 1/4 grain of Armour ( T4 47mcg / T3 2.25 mcg ) to
Synthroid 50mcg ...
- Normal TSH means no thyroid problem?????? Please help. 8th April 2008
... could do some thorough investigation. Look to the Armour thyroid physician locator and hunt up a new MD to...
- Who's actually being helped by generic synthetics? 8th April 2008
... My doctor isn't a fan of Armour . I'm a little sad, but her reasoning is sound. She...
... am on Synthroid only having recently eliminated the Armour . I wasn't doing well on it and the generics have never...
... That doesn't seem like "sound reasoning" at all. Armour contains 38 mcgs of T4 plus 9 mcgs of T3 per one-grain ... truly fail to see how it's easier to tweak T4 vs. Armour .
With that said, millions of people take - and ... you will, too.
Edited to add... The way to tweak Armour 's ratio is to add a bit of T4 drug to the Armour dose...
... That doesn't seem like "sound reasoning" at all. Armour contains 38 mcgs of T4 plus 9 mcgs of T3 per one-grain ... truly fail to see how it's easier to tweak T4 vs. Armour .
With that said, millions of people take - and ... need more or less T3 than what they would get from Armour ... so if she feels that the T4 alone isn't taking ... T3 & T4 that might be a ratio different than what Armour provides.
Hope that made sense. :)...
- How long for meds to work? Maca? 8th April 2008
... you have to have it shipped into you. Only taking Armour or cytomel will get you what you need.
Well if you...
... complete disarray.
I'm pretty sure you can't get Armour or Cytomel here. Maybe I could get a European brand...
... smack the MD through the screen for that comment. If Armour and Nature-thyroid are poisons i guess all the normal...
- Follow Up, New Labs, New Questions?!?!?!? HELP Please! 7th April 2008
... I am currently at 75 mcg levo w/ 30mg armour . I take half of the armour in the morning with the...
... Did you ever think about dropping the Armour and upping your Levo ?
your FT4 is still on the low ... anxiety problems.
I would up my Levo and dropp the Armour and give it a few weeks.
You can alway add back some ... Armour if you need to but I think you will be fine on just...
... the more "awake, aware" state that I get from the Armour ... I just don't want that to leave if I go back on...
... you can always add a little T3 Cytomel or Armour if you need to.
I would try it....
- Having trouble breathing...well, sort of 7th April 2008
... until the beginning of March. Then I switched to Armour . For the most part I've been doing better on the ... Armour , but still having a lot of ups and downs. I'm sure...
- drainage? is it my thyroid? 6th April 2008
... I found mine via the armour thyroid physician locator. Using the 77520 zip I...
- Question on TSH Suppression 6th April 2008
... I'm on 1 grain of Armour and my TSH is suppressed to .03. How come some people...
... Most people taking the right amount of Armour have suppressed TSH. It's the nature of T3 to suppress ... to keep TSH within normal range while prescribing Armour , you are not likely to reach an optimum dose while...
- Thyroid and Pituitary 6th April 2008
... I'm going to quickly sum it up.
I was fine on Armour until 6 months ago when my TSH went too low and I...
... regardless of lab ranges is not high enough. You were on Armour (which suppresses TSH) so your low TSH while medicated ... kick back in and start raising tsh after one stops Armour but it may be enough time hasn't passed (I think it ... your medication - it would be to reduce it. Maybe Armour is not the right med for you? I don't know. Mkgbrook...
... post I realized I should add a few things. I went off Armour per orders of my Dr because everything read normal...
... Watching TSH is not the proper way to dose Armour . The T3 that it contains suppresses TSH, making it ... is fine with things as they are.
The way to dose Armour is to watch the free levels of the actual thyroid ... tested??? Bad move. Makes me wonder if your MD knows Armour as well as he should.
There are absolutely no symptoms ... abysmally low tells me that you should be taking more Armour than you're getting, and someone in the know should ... 50% of the lab's reference range, you need more Armour not less... despite wherever TSH falls. It should...
... found something that worked. The next med we tried, Armour , did work very well without overmedicating me.
...
Maybe Armour isn't right for you like Synthroid wasn't right for...
- new post opened !!!!!!!!!!! 6th April 2008
... Endos.. too conservative. I found my MD through the Armour thyroid physician locator database. All the others...
... Good morning - I wanted to thank you for the list of Armour docs - for some reason many of them were listed as...
... What Armour docs were removed? As too how they are to treat and ... monitor your levels on Armour ... the FDA clearly states in little itty bitty print...
... I wish your MD would let you try a half grain of Armour instead of the whopper 20 cytomels.. WOW will that...
- Questions about test results and symptoms 6th April 2008
... need some advice. I am currently taking 180 MG or Armour . I had blood work done awhile back. My endo sent ... caffeine. She said that if the symptoms were from the Armour , that I would only be having the symptoms within 2 ... She said that these symptoms could not be from the Armour Thyroid. I decided to make an appointment with my ... just not sure what to change. I want to reduce my armour , but not sure how to do that. I have started taking ... the armour pill(60MG) at lunch with my lunch instead of before ... back to the original endo.
Do you think that the armour is what is causing my problems? I have had a very ... I was fine with it. The doctor switched me to the armour to see how I did with it. She said it might help...
...
But before I go on, tell me... Did you take any Armour before you had blood drawn for those labs, or did...
... better, more reasonable doctor who also prescribes Armour , I'd just take less on my own to see what happens ... to see if pulse and BP problems abate. (I take my Armour all in the a.m. and don't take a p.m. dose at all...
- newbie:) hypothyroid help!! 5th April 2008
... 2 years.
It could be as simple as switching to armour or supplementing t3....
- supressed tsh 5th April 2008
... I'm currently on Armour with a tsh of .03, FT4 at 40% of range and FT3 at ... strength. I also pointed out that I just took my Armour 1.5 hours ago and still presented with a heart rate...
- Interesting results on Armour... 5th April 2008
... Hi Shelbe ~
With my Dr, I've been leveling Armour for nearly 11 months. I started at 3/4 and now take ... Don't GET it, but do know that I feel much better on Armour than I did with a Levoxyl/Cytomel combo, so I'm planning...
- Lab question ? 5th April 2008
... was taking 37.5 mcg of Stynthroid and 1/4 grain of Armour .( T4 = 47mcg + T3= 2.25mcg )
TSH 0.33 0.35...
... trying to find the right meds.
I couldn't tolerate the Armour and switched to Synthroid + Cytomel.
I found a wonderful...
- ARMOUR users 5th April 2008
... experience as well. My last FT4 was 0.8 on 45 mg of Armour . It was also 0.8 on 75 mg of Armour. I had to drop...
... unique to each individual. I also do not do well on Armour alone. With Armour alone I had nasty symptoms such ... believe that was because the ratio of T4 to T3 in Armour is approx. 4:1. After very careful trial and error ... that I do better with twice the T4 in the ratio. Armour alone did not contain enough T4 for me, yet I need ... at 50 mcg of synthroid and 90 mcg (1 1/2 grain) of Armour . That translates to about 108 mcg T4 and 13.5 mcg ... about 8:1 in a T4:T3 ratio. The dose of 1 1/2 grain Armour is about 58 mcg T4 to 13.5 mcg T3, making the ratio...
... Sue, you don't have much to lose by giving a T4 and Armour combo a try. Was Meep here since you joined? Maybe ... not... he was on a Unithroid/ Armour combo at that time and doing very well.
I think ... at just 25 mcgs, if you don't want to reduce your Armour .
I once asked my MD if he ever prescribed a combo...
... be more of a help.....I am on 3 Grains or 180mg of Armour only....my T3 and T4 just stays midrange no matter...
- test results 5th April 2008
... I am currently taking 1 1/2 grains of armour . I recently had my blood tested and the results are...
... for you. People in your situation often lower the Armour dose a bit and combine it with a T4 drug to raise...
- T4 Question 4th April 2008
... but I'm still not feeling right. I'm on 60mg of armour . I switched from synthroid .75mg about six months ... ago. My FT4 has been the same since I started the armour . I have an appointment in a week, so I'll ask my...
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I've been on Armour 11 months, starting at 3/4 grain - now at 2 grains...
... My FT4 has never reached mid-range with Armour . It's at about 40% of the range, while the FT3 ... good.
If you think you definitely need higher FT4, Armour may not do the entire job, so you might have to combine ... a little pure T4 with your Armour dose....
- armour side effects 4th April 2008
... may be getting an overload in the T3 department and armour is packed with a lot of T3.....
... mg's. [SIZE="1"][COLOR="Teal"](I take 120mg's of Armour DAILY)[/SIZE] Maybe your body is very sensitive?...
... t be such problems from such a miniscule amount of Armour . It's really tinier than tiny, and shouldn't be doing...
... t be such problems from such a miniscule amount of Armour . It's really tinier than tiny, and shouldn't be doing ... treatment I need based on my test results or is the armour just making me Hyperthyroid?" I plan to see a specialist...
- Enlarged Thyroid??? Normal labs???? 4th April 2008
... told my thyroid was fine.....:(
So now I am on Armour 3 Grains to suppress my goiter and nodules.....I feel ... my labs were within normal range I was tried on the Armour and it works well for me........interesting enough ... the medication......I have no hyper symptoms and the Armour agrees great with me.... I am still mid range but...
